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I am currently in the middle of The Lost City of Z by David Grann (Goodreads link), a nonfiction story about early 20th century exploration and it got me thinking about the pretty wide gulf between what a real world adventurer is, and what most RPG adventurers are. Are there any TTRPGs that...

I just put daggerheart in the search bar and they popped right up.

Doing so, I can't see where you pick the Daggerheart minis versus just the frog folk or whatever. EDIT: Nevermind. Found it.

Am I misunderstanding? Are these not Daggerheart branded assets?

Are there other company specific models that are not behind a paywall, or is this an attempt to try a new type of product? I am curious if HF is testing the waters here, or if Darrington is seeing just how far they can leverage the moment of popularity of DH. Just to be clear, I am not...

I'm only saying it isn't unusual, and that it does not appear to be enshittification. Unless i am misunderstanding, these weren't elements that had been included in the sub but then put behind a pay wall. They were new things put behind the payroll.

An example of a system that asks both a subscription fee and has microtransactions. There are tons of other potential examples -- it was just the first one to come to mind.

Fair enough. I am just having trouble imagining a concrete example of something that might occur in play. But, again, the overall point is good.

I agree with all of this. Much of it is orthogonal to mechanics, though. If the fighter player wants his character to ascend to the throne, there is not much that the wizard can do to disrupt that through magic, I don't think. At best, GMs can remind players to respect one another's spotlight...

My only point was that it does appear that what is happening here is some sort of unprecedented move by the company. I'll thank you not to impose your assumptions on my motives.

One particularly 5E thing with high level PCs is that they are probably STILL vulnerable to their weak saves, unless they took special care while leveling up to compensate. This is both a tool in the GM's tool kit, but also something to watch out for.

I don't know if this is true all the time. I am a big believer in personal stories, even at high levels. It doesn't have to be about saving the kingdom or world. Sometimes a demigoddess runs away from her arranged marriage to an Elemtal Lord to be eith her Fae Prince lover, and the PCs are...

5E high level monster design is just terrible. You have to look for different solutions than what's in the MM.

I think high level PCs in 5E should have to pour on the gas in order to come out ahead. the encounters and especially the boss fights should be tough -- not just burn your most powerful abilities tough, but work together and find the weakness tough.

So, WoW then.

I think one of the primary bugbears for high level play is how to handle high level monsters, their minions, and encounters in general. I think it is self evident that 5E core design does not do this well. It falls down at almost every turn. But that does not mean it isn't fixable. For general...

While I agree with the overall point, I am a little puzzled at your choice of example. First, fabricate isn't particularly high level (4th). And, are blacksmith montages a thing?

Fortnite makes billions of dollars a year based on microtransactions. People might complain, but it is standard practice. What people really hate is change. In all its forms. Always. But again, it came up in this very thread: there are (apparently) better services out there. Use one of those...

THIS IS A + THREAD. If you don't think it is possible to enjoy high level play in 5E, awesome! But maybe this isn't the thread for you. This thread is about discussing and providing ideas and support for making high level (16+) 5E (any flavor) work at the table and be fun, since WotC and most...

I am saying that I don't believe people aren't interested in high level stories. Especially now, where superheroes and amime sbound. I think people, Especially here, are dismissing it out of hand mostly due to habit. WotC, as a company, follows the market. And if there is a pervasive meme that...