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  1. Bagpuss

    Where and how do you play?

    Online using Roll20 still actually using it's video and voice coms. Haven't been allowed to meet in person for nearly a year now, and it will be summer at least before lockdown is eased enough for us to meet again. We use to play in person on Sunday evenings the virtual game is on the same...
  2. Bagpuss

    D&D General Who is this?

    Not sure but he clearly looks bored it is taking you so long to get the camera in focus.
  3. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    No it doesn't because if all orcs are that way and it is established in the setting to be a fact, then they aren't judging on the actions of a few. And orcs aren't effectively alien? They aren't human that's a certain. So psychological make up doesn't need to be human, so what's the issue with...
  4. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    Well that's saved me reading... (quick google search) 36 books.
  5. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    And he wields dual scimitars!! Don't forget that...
  6. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    Kind of depends, culture can come from the physical nature of the creature. At the crudest level kobold tunnels, will likely have lower ceilings, and this is likely true for kobolds the world over, in pre-history they might have develop traps to deal with larger opponents because they are...
  7. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    Okay but the only orcs you've ever met are those marauding orcs is it still not justified? Isn't their marauding existence antithetical to the life of other sapient beings? In fact what if the lore of the game world is that only marauding orcs exist (as was true of D&D) in the game world is it...
  8. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    Totally agree if there weren't any PCs my campaigns would run so much smoother... ...oh PC defaults. That makes more sense, still one can but dream.
  9. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    Would the bias against Mind Flayers be also misplaced? Also if orcs are constantly attacking your nation is the bias misplaced, or based on experience?
  10. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    they should all have the same range of physical attributes.
  11. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    Well it is if you were brought up CoE and had never heard of the Curse of Ham until you mentioned it. Seems another US culture thing. Edit: Also checked with my RC wife and she’s not heard of it either.
  12. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    So what you consider obvious you immediately admit in the next sentence is incorrect. So you are seeing racism because your conditioned to see it by US culture, not because it is actually there.
  13. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    Oh so like some Christian groups seeking the end times?
  14. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    You know what a lot of us are lazy, we don't play D&D to create great works of fiction, we do it to meet up with friends, share a laugh, slay a dragon and maybe a few orcs along the way. And there is nothing wrong with that. We don't go thinking hmm these orcs actually represent an oppressed...
  15. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    Works pretty well with it, and it is a useful tool for the sort of heroic stories that D&D is about. Right so what your saying is players should instead be crushed by overwhelming guilt when they go round killing orcs? Sounds like fun game... not sure it will catch on as well but you do you...
  16. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    Why? They do evil shit, they are evil. Should we start calling them misunderstood humanoids?
  17. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    D&D has an alignment system, for better or worse. It is a bit of a chicken and egg situation most of the time. Are Orcs evil because they have a culture based on rampaging and pillage, or do they rampage and pillage because they are evil? In D&D lore they are Evil intrinsically and thus have a...
  18. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    I counter with CS Lewis... “When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” Just enjoy the D&D the way you want to enjoy it. Evil orcs are fine you aren't hurting anyone.
  19. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    Yeah but in most D&D adventures evil creature do have a reason for doing what they are doing (which is usually invading). In the Essentials kit they have been displaced by a Dragon moving into their territory, in Red Hand of Doom they are are being driven by their worship of Tiamat, etc. In the...
  20. Bagpuss

    D&D General Old School DND talks if DND is racist.

    I think you will find all races in D&D vary from humans physically, because otherwise they would just be human. Race in D&D is used much more like species in reality. So it has little to do with the American idea of race. Most races also differ culturally from humans, these are often presented...
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