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My response to you was just to clarify, and give an example of a power that has the proficiency bonus in the attack line (and why). I'm satisfied with Flip's answer, and I don't see any point in arguing.

*shows you the playtest version of this power* ;) The playtest version of this power DID have the weapon proficiency bonus in the attack line, suggesting that you always got the bonus (not just when you are proficient with the weapon). Since that changed, Flip's approach seems to be the right...

Sounds right based on the proficiency bonus being stripped from the attack line between the playtest and the released power. Thanks a lot!

Ahh, good takes on this, exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Thanks. Like Weem asked: has anyone had this come up in their own game? If so, how was it ruled and what was the reason?

Heh, thanks Weem. Long time lurker, first time poster. :D

Thanks for the reposne, I guess I should have been more clear on what I was expecting; I just want a more educated interpretation. The folks here seem to have a better feel for the intent behind the written rules. Is the removal of the proficiency from the playtest to the actual book...

I play an artificer, and the past couple of games I've used the Dancing Weapon daily power. It has the "Weapon" keyword, but doesn't include the proficiency bonus in the attack line (it is just Int vs AC). My argument is that the summon should be proficient with itself, otherwise the to hit is...