D&D General “Mature” vs “Black Label”

[Umbran]

Maybe Wizards of the Coast is realizing that the one thing that woke and broke have in common is their taste for exotic pornography.

Mod note:
And, your descent into insulting political rhetoric has earned you a ticket out of the thread.

 

[FailedFocus]

Honestly given the definitions i'd hope that Dark Sun was both Mature and Black Label.

It's isolation from other worlds in the D&D multiverse always felt like a big deal before, and I'm not keen on the idea that Athas can easily be travelled to from other worlds - or more importantly, that it can be travelled out of and escaped.
The people there having a rough life with no escape is vital to the feeling of the setting IMO.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

Real top shelf branding to opt for something this opaque to their audience.

 

[Dessert Nomad]

This actually seems like a really useful distinction, tagging products specifically as 'this isn't a thing you can get to from FR in the standard game' gives them more freedom while making it clear that 'you really shouldn't expect these rules at every table'.

 

[Milli Rabbit]

Based on the one shot they did, Black Label seems to refer to alternate versions of DnD. Death Saves is both an alternate history but also alternate rule set. During the one shot, they had different rules from the 5.5e rule set. For example, characters got Death Saving Throws while still alive and well. If they failed, they marked a failure and three means dead. I imagine dead even if you have HP. They also had some sort of expertise dice and other rules changes. I almost want to suggest A5e was the first Black Label 5e product XD

 

[nyvinter]

They also had some sort of expertise dice sounds like the proficiency dice from D&D Next.

The death saves whenever something dangerous happens sounds... silly. If you want someone die for failing something that would kill them, just have them die. It's not trickier than that. But I assume they really want to use Death Saves as a gimmick.

 

[Jono11]

Based on my experience with DC Comics, Black Label is when Batman hangs dong and Mature is when Alan Moore writes Swamp Thing.

 

[Bae'zel]

Probably means more nudity in visuals, some swearing in the prose, more material that fits under "rated R" for violence or explicit explanations of villains doing awful things (eg slavery, drug abuse, corruption, sexism etc).

I'm thinking of White Wolf's "Black Dog" line, and gritty stuff like Montreal by Night.

 

[Morrus]

Probably means more nudity in visuals, some swearing in the prose, more material that fits under "rated R" for violence or explicit explanations of villains doing awful things (eg slavery, drug abuse, corruption, sexism etc).

That's what 'Mature' probably means for Dark Sun. Black Label means something else.