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<blockquote data-quote="CleverNickName" data-source="post: 4296290" data-attributes="member: 50987"><p>If you substitute the word "pizza" for all references to D&D, and if you substitute the word "mushroom" for any particular aspect of 4th Edition, you can boil down most of the 4E opinion threads here into something that looks a lot like this:</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 1: </strong> "I love pizza, but I don't care for mushrooms. I would like to discuss ordering a pizza without mushrooms."</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 2: </strong> "What? Pizza without mushrooms isn't really pizza at all. Unless you pile lots of mushrooms on your pizza, I can't see how you can possibly claim to still be eating pizza."</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 1: </strong> "Wait. What?"</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 2: </strong> "I bet you haven't had mushrooms on your pizza before. Why don't you try them before you form an opinion?"</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 1: </strong> "But I have tried them. I had them the last time I came in here, and I didn't care for the taste."</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 2: </strong> "Eating mushrooms only once isn't 'trying them,' according to the rules I just made up. You need to eat buckets of mushrooms, daily, for several months, before I will accept your opinion."</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 1: </strong> "That's absurd! Why would I force myself to eat a pizza that I know I won't enjoy, when I'm the one paying for it?"</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 2: </strong> "As a self-acclaimed connoisseur of pizza toppings, I refuse to believe that anyone could seriously hate the taste of mushrooms, particularly on pizza. So clearly, your opinion is wrong."</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 1: </strong> "How can it be 'wrong?' It's an opinion, not a statement of fact."</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 2: </strong> "Look. You <em>knew</em> that we used mushrooms before you walked in the door. So I want to know why would you come to this <em>mushroom-using</em> establishment, and complain about mushrooms in the first place?! I think you are just trolling for an argument."</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 1: </strong> "I'm not trolling. I just want a pizza without mushrooms, and I would like to discuss how can that be done most effectively."</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 2: </strong> "Why do you hate the mushroom growers? They work hard to bring you all of these delicious mushrooms, and this is how you repay them. They have families to feed, you know."</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 1: </strong> "It's not personal, I just don't like the taste."</p><p></p><p><strong>Gamer 2: </strong> "Beat it, straw man! I'm sorry that you are blind to the truth. Go eat your stupid mushroomless <em><strong>non</strong>-pizza</em> somewhere else. Next!"</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p>Please comment and express your own opinions...but let's <strong><span style="color: DarkRed">keep the discussion in terms of pizza and pizza toppings!</span></strong> Come on, it will be fun...or different, at least. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CleverNickName, post: 4296290, member: 50987"] If you substitute the word "pizza" for all references to D&D, and if you substitute the word "mushroom" for any particular aspect of 4th Edition, you can boil down most of the 4E opinion threads here into something that looks a lot like this: ----- [B]Gamer 1: [/B] "I love pizza, but I don't care for mushrooms. I would like to discuss ordering a pizza without mushrooms." [B]Gamer 2: [/B] "What? Pizza without mushrooms isn't really pizza at all. Unless you pile lots of mushrooms on your pizza, I can't see how you can possibly claim to still be eating pizza." [B]Gamer 1: [/B] "Wait. What?" [B]Gamer 2: [/B] "I bet you haven't had mushrooms on your pizza before. Why don't you try them before you form an opinion?" [B]Gamer 1: [/B] "But I have tried them. I had them the last time I came in here, and I didn't care for the taste." [B]Gamer 2: [/B] "Eating mushrooms only once isn't 'trying them,' according to the rules I just made up. You need to eat buckets of mushrooms, daily, for several months, before I will accept your opinion." [B]Gamer 1: [/B] "That's absurd! Why would I force myself to eat a pizza that I know I won't enjoy, when I'm the one paying for it?" [B]Gamer 2: [/B] "As a self-acclaimed connoisseur of pizza toppings, I refuse to believe that anyone could seriously hate the taste of mushrooms, particularly on pizza. So clearly, your opinion is wrong." [B]Gamer 1: [/B] "How can it be 'wrong?' It's an opinion, not a statement of fact." [B]Gamer 2: [/B] "Look. You [I]knew[/I] that we used mushrooms before you walked in the door. So I want to know why would you come to this [I]mushroom-using[/I] establishment, and complain about mushrooms in the first place?! I think you are just trolling for an argument." [B]Gamer 1: [/B] "I'm not trolling. I just want a pizza without mushrooms, and I would like to discuss how can that be done most effectively." [B]Gamer 2: [/B] "Why do you hate the mushroom growers? They work hard to bring you all of these delicious mushrooms, and this is how you repay them. They have families to feed, you know." [B]Gamer 1: [/B] "It's not personal, I just don't like the taste." [B]Gamer 2: [/B] "Beat it, straw man! I'm sorry that you are blind to the truth. Go eat your stupid mushroomless [I][B]non[/B]-pizza[/I] somewhere else. Next!" ----- Please comment and express your own opinions...but let's [B][COLOR=DarkRed]keep the discussion in terms of pizza and pizza toppings![/COLOR][/B] Come on, it will be fun...or different, at least. :D [/QUOTE]
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