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5E Ahhh: Level Two

We hit level two last night halfway through our second session and that gives me such a sense of relief. First level is sooooooooo fragile.

[Of course, my PC was taken from full hit points to unconscious in one surprise attack from a grick, but that's not the point of this thread.]

Is First Level where a large percentage of deaths occur in 5E?

Have your low level characters been more "run and hide" than you're accustomed to playing?
 

iserith

Explorer
Most of the characters that have met their end in my games have been around 3rd or 4th level. I'm also having no problem at all slapping around the 10th-level characters in my current game.

My experience is that most players have some awareness of the fragility of 1st-level characters and are a bit more cautious (but not so cautious as to make the game boring). As a result, I haven't seen any 1st-level deaths.
 

ProphetSword

Villager
I've had more characters go down from levels 7-9 so far than I did during the first 6 levels. Not sure what that's all about, but I imagine part of it is because the campaign started with the playtest rules where the monsters were less brutal. But, even still, I see at least one character go down per session, sometimes more. Not usually in a single hit, but sometimes in a single round.
 

aramis erak

Explorer
We hit level two last night halfway through our second session and that gives me such a sense of relief. First level is sooooooooo fragile.

[Of course, my PC was taken from full hit points to unconscious in one surprise attack from a grick, but that's not the point of this thread.]

Is First Level where a large percentage of deaths occur in 5E?

Have your low level characters been more "run and hide" than you're accustomed to playing?
Not IME. They still KNOW they're fragile. Most of mine were 2nd level...
 

Rhenny

Explorer
We felt the same way in HoDQ when we hit 2nd level. Since then, we only have 1 person go unconscious every other encounter instead of every encounter. lol.
 

KarinsDad

Villager
Our only death: 4th level.

However, PCs have generally been going unconscious less the higher up we go. It still happens in tough fights though.
 

Sacrosanct

Slayer of Keraptis
I haven't changed my style of play. Then again, I come from 1e, so 5e even at level one feels like they are very competent and not fragile at all ;)
 

MortalPlague

Adventurer
I nearly killed a PC in my 17th level game the other night. The session before, my buddy nearly TPK'ed us.

PC deaths can happen at any level. :)
 

Gadget

Explorer
I believe levels 1-2 are supposed to be 'apprentice' levels, and recall (though not exactly replicate) the fragile zero to hero experience from the editions of yesteryear. There was talk at one time of recommending players start out at 3rd level to have a more 'the characters are competent and respected members of their class' type of experience at one time. Did they ever issue that recommendation?
 

aramis erak

Explorer
As a player, this thread is not encouraging me.

As a DM, this thread is encouraging me.
Seriously, as a player, play with the same caution as 1st level, and you'll survive second no problem.

The increased down and dead rates I saw at 2nd were because players got less cautious. And while I'm not a terribly "lethal GM"... I don't hesitate to whump on those who are incautious, and I use tactics mercilessly with Int 8+ NPCs.

My NPCs make use of cover, fire from hard positions, sneak up on PC's, use clerical magic to great effect... "Oh Mighty Takhisis, restore his strength" is something my players heard from behind a door they closed after killing a kobold Saturday night.
 

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