D&D 4E Anyone playing 4e at the moment?


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BigZebra

Adventurer
I never stopped playing 4th. I also only run 2 games: D&D4e and Star Wars 1st/2nd WEG D6. I'm just one of those weirdos who isn't interested in 5th, 3rd, 3.5, 3.75, or 3.875.
Nice. I’m really looking forward to try it. Just got my 4e PHB in the mail and I quite like the book. I also really do like 5e but i think the 4e rules will fit our group really well.
What is it about 4e you prefer?
 
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sabrinathecat

Explorer
Nice. I’m really looking forward to try it. Just got my 4e PHB in the mail and I quite like the book. I also really do like 5e but i think the 4e rules will fit our group really well.
What is it about 4e you prefer?
It is consistent (more so than any other edition). Prep time is a fraction of what I dealt with back in the days of 2nd ed. I have a hacked version of the character builder (called CBLoader), and some fan built plug-ins for all the materials published after the official builder changed was On-Line only, so building characters is almost as easy as Adventure Tools made creating custom monsters.
One tip: make sure you get all of the corrections and errata. In the rush to print, some obvious typos are in there, and some things were clearly never play-tested and had to be corrected after the fact (like a lvl11 encounter power that's a close burst 8! or another power that was a close blurst--was that a blast or a burst? Nope, text actually says blurst. How did a spell-checker not catch that). Sure, it isn't completely perfect, but I think a lot of people were too busy attacking it for being too different from 3.5 to really give it a proper chance. Even WotC abandoned it after only half the planned time on the market. On the other hand, most of the books are available cheap, or you could look around for downloadable .pdf files. I won't post specific sites, as this /could/ be legally dubious, but that's what PM is for.
Sadly, some of the later classes never got the magic item or feat support they should have.
Your Mileage May Vary.
 

Garthanos

Arcadian Knight
Nice. I’m really looking forward to try it. Just got my 4e PHB in the mail and I quite like the book. I also really do like 5e but i think the 4e rules will fit our group really well.
What is it about 4e you prefer?
4e is far more cinematic and larger than life, its powers and spells more poetic and while its multi-classing is initially restrained, by the time finished product is was far more safe and flexible (custom content not required). 4e assumed extraordinary skill is as awesome as magic instead of an inferior cousin.
 

Horwath

Hero
Overall not my favorite DND edition but it did have few good things.

It's balanced, maybe little too much :p

Magic items are very precised valued, again maybe a little too much,

At-will scaleable cantrips,


One thing that I hated is +1/2 per level bonus to EVERYTHING.
It's too much

Maybe you should try 4E without +1/2 bonus.
It's far better, feat's, ASI's and +x magic items give more than enough "feeling" of advancement.
And it does not make low level monsters irrelevant after few levels.
 

dave2008

Legend
On the other hand, most of the books are available cheap, or you could look around for downloadable .pdf files. I won't post specific sites, as this /could/ be legally dubious, but that's what PM is for.
Sadly, some of the later classes never got the magic item or feat support they should have.
Your Mileage May Vary.
I think most, if not all, of the 4e books are available n PDF on DMsGuild legally: 4e DMsGuild

EDIT: PHB, MM, & DMG are definitely there as well as 212 other entries!
 

dave2008

Legend
Overall not my favorite DND edition but it did have few good things.

It's balanced, maybe little too much :p

Magic items are very precised valued, again maybe a little too much,

At-will scaleable cantrips,


One thing that I hated is +1/2 per level bonus to EVERYTHING.
It's too much

Maybe you should try 4E without +1/2 bonus.
It's far better, feat's, ASI's and +x magic items give more than enough "feeling" of advancement.
And it does not make low level monsters irrelevant after few levels.
Ya, if I go back to 4e ever I think I would get rid of the 1/2 level advancement too.
 



Garthanos

Arcadian Knight
In my opinion low level monsters should change roles and progress by role like solo / elite / standard and become minions and swarms as the hero's advance not be propped up as more dangerous than they need to be / have the same complexity as default. You do not want to be doing a ton of rolling for multitudes nor have the complex abilities they have when they were an elite when they are now outclassed and I do not think even minions always fully do the trick hence swarms.

I disagree about the feeling of advancement being sufficient without the 1/2 and with nothing more than rather narrow attribute advancement .... particularly missing is for skills and 5e proved that for me undermining that is part of what makes the over all game feel smaller.
 
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@BigZebra , I found this site which has links to all the 4e errata (and there was a lot). It might be a good idea to check it out: 4e Updates
there was a single consolidated 4e Errata PDF. In fact they published them periodically. The last one includes all of the errata that were ever released, AFAIK, although it is possible there were a couple of tweaks that were included in the last 4e Dragon which were intended to provide clarity in how to multi-class some of the Essentials classes, build hybrids, etc.

Anyway, if they have that PDF, then you have a complete one-stop-shop for looking up all the errata, organized by which book and then by pages. That means you can pretty easily go through and see if anything applies to a specific power or whatnot.
 

dave2008

Legend
there was a single consolidated 4e Errata PDF. In fact they published them periodically. The last one includes all of the errata that were ever released, AFAIK, although it is possible there were a couple of tweaks that were included in the last 4e Dragon which were intended to provide clarity in how to multi-class some of the Essentials classes, build hybrids, etc.

Anyway, if they have that PDF, then you have a complete one-stop-shop for looking up all the errata, organized by which book and then by pages. That means you can pretty easily go through and see if anything applies to a specific power or whatnot.
Do you have a link to said PDF?
 


jeffh

Adventurer
To just answer the question in the thread title, around the beginning of the pandemic I started running Zeitgeist online under 4E. This is the reason for my recent return to being semi-active here, hardly a regular but I'm back to making more than just three comments a year or so. We're maybe a quarter of the way through The Dying Skyseer at the moment (we've missed a lot of weeks).
 




ctorus

Explorer
Still playing 4e; works excellently on Roll20 (or other vtt). My favourite D&D edition by far. I really don't think you need the digital tools at all; character generation is pretty straightforward if you don't try and bring in all the available options for every class at 1st level.

Sold most of my 5e books, but I'd be interested in advice on useful/good things to grab from 5e for running in 4e, if there is anything.
 

If you can get hold of the essential line, use it.
The classes are a lot more true to classical DnD and feel even more distinct than the standard 4e ones.
 

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