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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 3879085" data-attributes="member: 32536">I don't know who Trawn and Vetinari are, but if Shu is refering to the strategist from Suikoden 2, then I say no, he is not suited to being a PC in an ordinary D&D campaign. Keep in mind, Shu is not a controllable combat character in Suikoden 2. No strategist is playable in the whole series. They only play a role in story sequences and mass battles. They don't even affect anything at the kind of scale a D&D controller would need to operate.Shu is a great character, and I think there should be a place for such a character in D&D, but I don't think a martial controller PC is that place.At their core, I think a controller needs to force his opponents to do something/be in a bad situation. As a whole, Strategists can only make plans, which are carried out by teammates. This is a form of leadership, not control, if you ask me.Honestly, this just sounds like a Rogue to me. I am just not seeing how this works... Maybe a Rogue/Warlord multiclass, but I am not seeing it offer anything that doesn't already exist in other Martial classes...Remember that the main difference between the battlefield commanders of Suikoden and the strategists is that the strategists offer advice for controlling large-scale sieges and the defense and conquest of entire cities and regions. At the tactical level that D&D operates in, the Suikoden strategists don't do anything at all.Also, I think you are under-estimating the strategic intelligence of the Warlord class. I don't imagine it as a purely charisma-based class. I imagine it as a class of the smart fighter who probably plays way too much chess...</blockquote>

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