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<blockquote data-quote="Tellerian Hawke" data-source="post: 6609250" data-attributes="member: 6790669"><p>The problem with superhero films is that they are always pushing the limits of the CGI action, in order to make the superpowers truly "super."</p><p></p><p>Also, it doesn't help that the average human attention span in terms of camera panning is 8 seconds. Yes, you heard right. 8 seconds. If the camera stays on one subject for more than 8 seconds, the audience gets bored.</p><p></p><p>I guess that's why Film Noir is so niche nowadays; not many people appreciate long camera shots and extensive dialogue anymore. They just want the sound byte.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I'd like to see a villain who can last through 2 or 3 films before they are finally able to deal with him. I think the original Star Wars trilogy (New Hope, Empire, Jedi) did that rather well; in the first film, the empire's big weapon is kaboshed, but Vader flees in his Tie Fighter, escaping destruction; in Empire Strikes Back, he comes on strong, and tempts Luke to join him, but this time, it's the heroes who must flee. Finally, in Jedi, Luke not only defeats Vader, but also FORGIVES him, in one of the most dramatic (and well-written!) endings in movie history! In each film, the villain becomes more real, less faceless. Vader starts out as just "the bad guy" in the first film, then he becomes "the obsessed, estranged father" in the second film, and finally, he becomes the tragic (yet redeemed, at the end) hero of the third film.</p><p></p><p>I get it, that sort of thing is hard to do.</p><p></p><p>But it's not impossible.</p><p></p><p>Also, some fights shouldn't take as long as they do; there are some things that might look pretty cool if they were allowed to think outside the box.</p><p></p><p>Examples of this from other movies:</p><p></p><p>Lonesome Dove: "You killed them all. I didn't fire a shot." --July Johnson, after watching Gus ride into Ermoke's camp and shoot Ermoke and all 5 of his buddies while they were all drunk.</p><p></p><p>The scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark where Indiana Jones shoots the guy who makes the mistake of bringing a sword to a gunfight.</p><p></p><p>The final scene in Last of the Mohicans, where Unclas dies at the hands of Maugwa, and then Maugwa gets his a$$ handed to him a minute or two later by Chingatchgook. I think most people were thinking that Hawkeye would be the one to save the day, but it's obvious, once you see the old chief in action, that Hawkeye doesn't hold a candle to him in terms of physical prowess.</p><p></p><p>Just some random thoughts <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tellerian Hawke, post: 6609250, member: 6790669"] The problem with superhero films is that they are always pushing the limits of the CGI action, in order to make the superpowers truly "super." Also, it doesn't help that the average human attention span in terms of camera panning is 8 seconds. Yes, you heard right. 8 seconds. If the camera stays on one subject for more than 8 seconds, the audience gets bored. I guess that's why Film Noir is so niche nowadays; not many people appreciate long camera shots and extensive dialogue anymore. They just want the sound byte. Personally, I'd like to see a villain who can last through 2 or 3 films before they are finally able to deal with him. I think the original Star Wars trilogy (New Hope, Empire, Jedi) did that rather well; in the first film, the empire's big weapon is kaboshed, but Vader flees in his Tie Fighter, escaping destruction; in Empire Strikes Back, he comes on strong, and tempts Luke to join him, but this time, it's the heroes who must flee. Finally, in Jedi, Luke not only defeats Vader, but also FORGIVES him, in one of the most dramatic (and well-written!) endings in movie history! In each film, the villain becomes more real, less faceless. Vader starts out as just "the bad guy" in the first film, then he becomes "the obsessed, estranged father" in the second film, and finally, he becomes the tragic (yet redeemed, at the end) hero of the third film. I get it, that sort of thing is hard to do. But it's not impossible. Also, some fights shouldn't take as long as they do; there are some things that might look pretty cool if they were allowed to think outside the box. Examples of this from other movies: Lonesome Dove: "You killed them all. I didn't fire a shot." --July Johnson, after watching Gus ride into Ermoke's camp and shoot Ermoke and all 5 of his buddies while they were all drunk. The scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark where Indiana Jones shoots the guy who makes the mistake of bringing a sword to a gunfight. The final scene in Last of the Mohicans, where Unclas dies at the hands of Maugwa, and then Maugwa gets his a$$ handed to him a minute or two later by Chingatchgook. I think most people were thinking that Hawkeye would be the one to save the day, but it's obvious, once you see the old chief in action, that Hawkeye doesn't hold a candle to him in terms of physical prowess. Just some random thoughts :) [/QUOTE]
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