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<blockquote data-quote="Colmarr" data-source="post: 5092628" data-attributes="member: 59182">KarinsDad, I'm not going to reply to all of your points. I acknowledge them and disagree with them, but consider some of them irrelevant to the very finite issues I have raised.&nbsp;I will respond to these:&nbsp;&nbsp;Seriously? &quot;Me and my friends say you're wrong&quot; That's you're argument? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;&nbsp;I disagree.&nbsp;&nbsp;I find it &quot;made up&quot; to assume that:&nbsp;(1) automatic effects from zones constitute &quot;using&quot; the power that created the zone;&nbsp;(2) an item power &quot;enables&quot; something in circumstances where at least one other event (an ally spending a healing surge) and possibly two or more (whatever it was that triggered the surge) have to happen first; and &nbsp;(3) a character can be said to &quot;use&quot; an item power if the item is no longer in the possession of the character.&nbsp;Ultimately now, you are falling back on the same sort of arguments that Keterys suggested I was using. &quot;That can't be right. It's silly!&quot; RAW is RAW, and I think it's fair to say that there have always been some clear examples of silly RAW that were nevertheless RAW.&nbsp;But like I said, I doubt one of us can convince the other.&nbsp;You can walk away thinking I'm silly. I can walk away knowing you disagree with me. And everyone else in the thread can form their own opinion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Colmarr, post: 5092628, member: 59182"] KarinsDad, I'm not going to reply to all of your points. I acknowledge them and disagree with them, but consider some of them irrelevant to the very finite issues I have raised. I will respond to these: Seriously? "Me and my friends say you're wrong" That's you're argument? :) I disagree. [U]I[/U] find it "made up" to assume that: (1) automatic effects from zones constitute "using" the power that created the zone; (2) an item power "enables" something in circumstances where at least one other event (an ally spending a healing surge) and possibly two or more (whatever it was that triggered the surge) have to happen first; and (3) a character can be said to "use" an item power if the item is no longer in the possession of the character. Ultimately now, you are falling back on the same sort of arguments that Keterys suggested I was using. "That can't be right. It's silly!" RAW is RAW, and I think it's fair to say that there have always been some clear examples of silly RAW that were nevertheless RAW. But like I said, I doubt one of us can convince the other. You can walk away thinking I'm silly. I can walk away knowing you disagree with me. And everyone else in the thread can form their own opinion. [/QUOTE]

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