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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5094000" data-attributes="member: 2011">In reply to this, I can only quote some rules. I looked up the word "use" and you are correct. It does effectively mean activate. I stand corrected.However, your interpretation is still incorrect.There is nothing special about an item unless the item states so or some other rules states so. So, let's look at these items:The brooch explicitly modifies the actual power of the battle standard when the battle standard power is used.Is the battle standard a power that enables you or an ally to regain hit points? Yes. You said so yourself (begrudgingly).Hence by definition, the bonus is added to ANY hit points gained. It bumps up the zone to 2 hit points WHEN the power is used. It changes the effect of the zone because the owner of the standard is USING the standard power as per the requirement of the brooch.The answer to #3 is no and it doesn't matter. The brooch modifies the zone effect at the point in time that the power is used.You can disagree with this (obviously), but it is no different than anything else and follows the same power rules.A Wizard with the Furnace of Sand power modifies the power when he uses the power with his Astral Fire feat:Note the word use.Is it your claim that since the zone does damage later on when a creature enters the square, the Wizard does not get his Astral Fire feat damage? Is it your claim that the feat only adds the damage during the split instant that the Wizard uses the power and not later on by the zone damage?How about Wall of Fire? The Wizard doesn't modify the damage of Wall of Fire for when creatures start their turns next to the wall with his Astral Fire feat at the point in time that the power is used?There is no difference here. For your interpretation to be correct, thousands of people are playing the game incorrectly (which is possible, but unlikely) when they use the Astral Fire feat to modify all damage rolls done by fire powers.Or any other feat to increase damage with a power when the power does damage in the future. Or any other item to increase damage with a power when the power does damage in the future.If you can find a rules difference between these examples here that I missed, please post it.</blockquote>

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