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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dwight" data-source="post: 4134701" data-attributes="member: 63520">If he couldn't have stressed that strongly enough why not put it at the top of that post?  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> But that aside, I understand what he getting at. Except what Doug said. That's how stuff like that tended to come out in my experience. You tried to find something that worked with the DM and then ran with that. You played the DM. With less holes in the rules, more options in the rules, you don't have to play the DM so much. Eventually you can go outside the rules the need just isn't as strong to do so because there is a lot more room inside.P.S.  Your character can still haul salt and pepper around in your pocket and throw it at people.</blockquote>