Bob World Builders favorite RPG Poll.

[SteveC]

Sometimes continuing a discussion is counterproductive. Apologies.

 

[Reynard]

Here's the next video:
I'll be honest, though, his dismissiveness of Daggerheart, Draw Steel and Shadowdark as "just fantasy heartbreakers" turned me right off.

 

[mamba]

I'll be honest, though, his dismissiveness of Daggerheart, Draw Steel and Shadowdark as "just fantasy heartbreakers" turned me right off.

I don’t think he meant anything by that (other than them being fantasy games), he likes Shadowdark and had at least two KS with SD material

 

[aramis erak]

Interesting to note that D&D 5/5.5 got only about a third of the votes, pathfinder about a tenth. Especially with his general D&D subject matter.

 

[Not a Decepticon]

Well, finsl video csme and proved my point - a poll where one of top 3 results is a signifier you omitted an important option is not indicative of snything. I managed to watch until he insilted relatively pretty successful games like Draw Steel and Daggerheart with "fAnTaSy HeArTbReAkEr" insult and I left.

I won't be watching his videos anymore after this debacle.

 

[Sossij]

That was fun and interesting. I'm glad he has the parsed data on the last tab of the spreadsheet for those of us curious how the smaller/older players panned out.

 

[Scribe]

I'll be honest, though, his dismissiveness of Daggerheart, Draw Steel and Shadowdark as "just fantasy heartbreakers" turned me right off.

Wow, surprising take.

Can I have some of that 'just a fantasy heartbreaker' success and accolades?

 

[Reynard]

Wow, surprising take.

Can I have some of that 'just a fantasy heartbreaker' success and accolades?

Yeah. If a game is successful, it is by definition not a fantasy heartbreaker. That's the "heartbreaker" part of the definition.

 

[cranberry]

Re: heartbreaker - I'm not surprised by this. D&D is his livelihood, so it's not surprise that he is biased in favor of D&D.

He seems to be quite obsessed with metrics, and he probably noticed that few if any of his core viewers play those games. So, he feels that it's "safe" for him to put them down.

It was fun to watch him admit that a substantial minority of his viewers play Pathfinder. I saw him in real time try to reconcile that in his mind.

 

[payn]

Yeah. If a game is successful, it is by definition not a fantasy heartbreaker. That's the "heartbreaker" part of the definition.

Its the successful part that trips folks up. Some folks believe anything designed to be a fantasy alternative that fails to beat D&D is a failure, and thus heartbreaker. Probably a term thrown around too loosely, IMO.