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<blockquote data-quote="Omega Lord" data-source="post: 369096" data-attributes="member: 7393"><p>Alright I really have to get this off my chest. As you all probably know there has been a lot of hype about the BoVD. And, as with any controversial subject, there are strong opinions on both sides of the debate. I have just waded throught the better part of the Tracy Hickman thread and ,quite frankly, I think all of us need to take a deep breath, step back for a second, and cool off a little. </p><p></p><p>One very serious thing that bugs me are the people who state that the BoVD will encourage PC's to be evil and then go on to make disgusting analogies to things like 9/11 and real life crimes. Making examples of real crimes and atrocities only serves to cause a negative emotional response, please make your arguments without reminding us all of how cruel we can be to one another in real life. </p><p></p><p>Another thing that needs to be taken into consideration is that the BoVD is ment as a DM's supplament and not something a player will have access to. If a player in my group brought the BoVD to the table and was wanting to use material from it I would probably say no. And if any player of mine became evil or if I ran an evil campaign I would show my players that, like in real life, being evil has grave consequences.</p><p></p><p>Personally I will use the BoVD to create truly evil villans, and thus increase the versimilitude of my campagin and give my players added motivation to expunge said evil villan. Does this make me a vile violence glorifying hethen? I would hope not.</p><p></p><p>Also, on the subject of evil campaigns. I believe that the dark side sourcebook for the star wars d20 game handles the subject quite adequtely. Basically it says that evil campaigns should end in a blaze of glory caliber event, and that if players in a campaign are evil that there are consequences.</p><p></p><p>One final thing, I do believe that a certin fun can be had playing an evil campaign. I realize that I am in the minority here and i probably seem like im contradicting my earlier comments but hear me out. Playing an evil campagin for me would not consist of the usual drivel i hear about in most "evil" campaigns, you know what im talking about "I cut off the head of the dead orc, deficate down his throat, and relieve myself on his corpse. (huh huh huh)". A campaign such as that merely panders to people who never matured past the age of 12. Playing an evil character allows you to explore different realms of thought. It would allow me to explore a differnent method of thinking, I would liken the experience to playing the villan in a play (or playing Grand theft auto 3). Does playing a violent psycopath in a game make me mentally unstable? No, it is just a game and, as such, exists in the realm of fantasy as opposed to how one would act in the real world.</p><p></p><p>Basically the point of this rant is to defend the BoVD as a ligitamate supplament for mature gamers. </p><p></p><p>(Dons flame retardant body suit)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Omega Lord, post: 369096, member: 7393"] Alright I really have to get this off my chest. As you all probably know there has been a lot of hype about the BoVD. And, as with any controversial subject, there are strong opinions on both sides of the debate. I have just waded throught the better part of the Tracy Hickman thread and ,quite frankly, I think all of us need to take a deep breath, step back for a second, and cool off a little. One very serious thing that bugs me are the people who state that the BoVD will encourage PC's to be evil and then go on to make disgusting analogies to things like 9/11 and real life crimes. Making examples of real crimes and atrocities only serves to cause a negative emotional response, please make your arguments without reminding us all of how cruel we can be to one another in real life. Another thing that needs to be taken into consideration is that the BoVD is ment as a DM's supplament and not something a player will have access to. If a player in my group brought the BoVD to the table and was wanting to use material from it I would probably say no. And if any player of mine became evil or if I ran an evil campaign I would show my players that, like in real life, being evil has grave consequences. Personally I will use the BoVD to create truly evil villans, and thus increase the versimilitude of my campagin and give my players added motivation to expunge said evil villan. Does this make me a vile violence glorifying hethen? I would hope not. Also, on the subject of evil campaigns. I believe that the dark side sourcebook for the star wars d20 game handles the subject quite adequtely. Basically it says that evil campaigns should end in a blaze of glory caliber event, and that if players in a campaign are evil that there are consequences. One final thing, I do believe that a certin fun can be had playing an evil campaign. I realize that I am in the minority here and i probably seem like im contradicting my earlier comments but hear me out. Playing an evil campagin for me would not consist of the usual drivel i hear about in most "evil" campaigns, you know what im talking about "I cut off the head of the dead orc, deficate down his throat, and relieve myself on his corpse. (huh huh huh)". A campaign such as that merely panders to people who never matured past the age of 12. Playing an evil character allows you to explore different realms of thought. It would allow me to explore a differnent method of thinking, I would liken the experience to playing the villan in a play (or playing Grand theft auto 3). Does playing a violent psycopath in a game make me mentally unstable? No, it is just a game and, as such, exists in the realm of fantasy as opposed to how one would act in the real world. Basically the point of this rant is to defend the BoVD as a ligitamate supplament for mature gamers. (Dons flame retardant body suit) [/QUOTE]
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