Trailer Carrie – Official Teaser | Prime Video [spoilers]

[MGibster]

Lastly, the book (and to a lesser extent, the OG movie) is a more interesting study of bullying. In the book, Carrie ostracized herself to a degree by quoting her mother's religion at people, and she was blatantly pathetic (kinda stupid, lacked lots of real world knowledge, kinda ugly, etc.).

It's been a while since I've read Carrie, but even some of the school's staff held her in contempt. It's uncomfortable, but I bet a lot of us knew a Carrie at some point in our life, someone who was weird and unlikable. We may have even picked on her ourselves. I knew a guy like that in high school, super awkward, dressed oddly, but was pretty much harmless, and most people, including myself, picked on him. Halfway through our freshman year, one of my friends pipes up, "This guy gets crap all the time and I don't want to be one of those people who dumps on him. We should stop picking on him." (Yay for positive peer pressure.) The following semester, dude had a breakdown in class, screaming and crying as he bolted out of the classroom, and the teacher reamed us sideways and forward.

It'd probably be tough for a show to make us feel towards Carrie like we may have felt towards someone in real life.

 

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Final trailer

 

[Clint_L]

Except we know today, after decades of research, most of which hasn't penetrated the public's understanding, that who gets bullied isn't about who they are, beyond bullies thinking they can get away with it. Bullying is about the bullies and what's going on with them -- most are abuse victims in some fashion.

It's true that many bullies have been abuse victims themselves. But for generations, educators worked on the mistaken belief that, because of this, bullies suffer from low self-esteem (so the way to get them to stop bullying was to make them feel better about themselves). This was never based on science, and we now know it's the opposite: bullies generally have HIGH self-esteem. In fact, that's why many are bullies: they have high self-regard and below-normal empathy, even for youngsters. Bullies also tend to have higher than average social standing.

So you don't want bullies to feel better about themselves. You want them to feel worse about their actions. Unfortunately, and I have experienced this at my school, many teachers still think of bullying as a result of low self-esteem, which is dangerous.

I think King's depictions of bullies, while hyperbolic, are generally pretty accurate in that almost all of his bullies are popular and powerful kids punching down because it makes them feel good. Many are developing sociopaths. More specifically, In Carrie, head mean girl Chris Hargenson reads like a textbook sociopath (lacking empathy but impulsive), while her boyfriend Billy Nolan seems like a full-on psychopath (much more calculated and transactional). Of course, King was a high school teacher when he wrote the novel.

 

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The show is out now and it opens with 911 phone calls and Sue doing an interview over what happened.

 

[Umbran]

I watched the first episode last night.

My wife, who is a fan of King, notes that they've gone off the book with a few things.

There's a character whose face we haven't seen yet - the voice sounds like it may be Kate Seigel, Flanagan's wife and frequent collaborator.

And, by all that is holy, I hope Samantha Sloyan (playing Carrie's mother) is a good person in real life, because she is astoundingly good at playing some really messed up antagonists.

 

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I put in the spoiler tag so people can discuss it and the differences between the various versions here.

 

[VashVet]

So far I’ve really liked the expansion of the characters and the story, particularly the typically unsympathetic characters such as Margaret White and Chris Hargensen. The opening scene of Episode 1 is effectively chilling. We know what’s coming and to tell part of the story with interviews of people in the aftermath gives it a great sense of foreboding. Instead of the show feeling like a revenge tale, its turning into a tragedy where if only certain characters had confided in someone else, or put that phone down and gone to bed, or just not have embraced their worst impulse in the moment, things could’ve been different.

I’m only through episode 3 so far, so the inclusion of other psychics seems to be the biggest deviation up to now, and it’ll be interesting to see what that brings to the whole story.