Chris Cocks says it makes sense to move D&D to a "live service" model, but Hasbro will always make physical books

Chris Cocks explicitly said that he wants to move D&D to a live service style of gaming.
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Chris Cocks isn't shy about plans to move Dungeons & Dragons to a more live service model of gaming. In a recent interview with GamesRadar, Cocks explicitly said that "it makes sense" for players to shift their mindset towards a live service due to the high amount of players using digital services, but assured the interviewer that books will still be produced by Hasbro. When asked if Wizards was moving away from books in favor of a more piecemeal release schedule, following the announcement of D&D Beyond's new Drops service. "Books will always be an important part of D&D," Cocks said. "It will always be kind of like a special totem that you can collect. I have a big bookshelf of D&D books myself."

"But we see what's happening – almost everyone who plays D&D uses D&D Beyond, like a super high percentage uses it," Cocks continued. "A very high percentage use Foundry VTT or Roll20, and so it just makes sense that you should start to migrate your thinking about the way you play to more of a live service where you don't have to wait 18 months for us to build a book. We can start to release components or aspects of that book over time, and you don't have to buy everything all at once. You can buy chapters or segments of it over time. That makes a ton of sense to me. That said we will still have big moments. We will still have like, 'hey, ta da, here's a huge campaign.' You can expect there'll be more around that, both from us and from all the creators in the world that can leverage a platform like D&D Beyond to share their content as well."

Broadly speaking, Dungeons & Dragons has always been a "live service" game, as the game's core business model involves continuously releasing new content in the form of new rulebooks or campaigns. However, it seems that Cocks is principally interested in shifting this model around more frequent releases. We'll note that the business model suggested by Cocks was already rolled out in a manner of speaking. The Dhampir species rules were released as a "digital DLC" for D&D Beyond subscribers who digitally ordered a Forgotten Realms book bundle, but a physical version of the rules are being released via the upcoming Ravenloft: The Horrors Within book. However, a la carte purchases were removed from D&D Beyond several years ago in order to force users to purchase entire books instead.
 

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I believe mass market is on the way out. Over the last 5 years I worked at B&N we got less and less.

In fact, we recently had a thread on here (I think) talking about how our old mass market book shelves in our home didnt hold trade paper.
Yes, I agree. My point is that the books printed 40-60 years or so ago, and I have a lot of them, are still in reasonably good shape. The paper is just a little yellow.
 

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People quit playing for all sorts of reasons, I wish you luck in finding a game or activity that better suits you. On the other hand people have been predicting this imminent demise of 5e for over a decade now. There will always be a next generation, either WOTC caters to what they want or the game will slowly be less popular. Even if the number of players was cut in half tomorrow, the game would still be more popular than any other time other than perhaps the 80s boom years.
What are you talking about?

I play 2014 and will mix in shadowdark sessions. I am set.

I am just not getting on board with subscription services and loot crates.

All good, fat and happy here! Years from now if I am still able to play I will be doing so dinosaur style.
 


I think you're underestimating the number of tech geeks involved in the hobby. My setup isn't that unusual. I know a lot of fellow nerds who at least have a NAS (and most everybody I know, nerd or not, has at least one cloud backup subscription).
I don't think I am.

I mean, certainly, you aren't the only tech-forward geek in our hobby. There is plenty of overlap in the Venn diagram comparing "D&D geeks" and "techy geeks", for sure.

There are plenty of us, however, who are not. Your setup is awesome, and perhaps amongst techy geeks not unusual, but in the overall community? Yes, you have quite the setup that many of us do not.

Could I wrangle one of my techy geek friends to help me get set up in a similar fashion as you? I could . . . but I don't want to. I'm fine with services like DDB. To each their own.
 

Really? It is not that difficult to set up. I have my own NAS setup that I built a few months ago. I do not do cloud except for critical because of the sub costs. I am so tired of subbing for everything. I did this after Amazon took away my ability to download my purchased books.

I purchased everything on DDB. I use the service weekly; however, I also own archival copies of all my content.

I am very wary of “you will own nothing and be happy.” It is the enshittification of your life.
Yes, really.

Condescending to assume I and others are simply okay with en****ifying our lives.

How about we just have different priorities, and that's okay. Too far for ya?
 


So acknowledging that the majority of people use online tools is yet another evil corporate takeover? People who are complaining about it are using an online forum to do so and don't see the irony?
They aren't going to stop selling books but people are moving online, nobody is forcing them.
I use an app for characters sheets. I love the shadow dark character generator.

What I think some find less than palatable is making an online vtt the exzclusive gateway to certain content. Subscription required…

For me anyway, I embrace tech. PDF is wonderful. For some vtt is essential.

Pay to win for character options is coming. Quote the pig (2026)…

Might be a while of course but this is writing on the wall. Not a super near term issue, but I can smell it from here.
 

I don't think I am.

I mean, certainly, you aren't the only tech-forward geek in our hobby. There is plenty of overlap in the Venn diagram comparing "D&D geeks" and "techy geeks", for sure.

There are plenty of us, however, who are not. Your setup is awesome, and perhaps amongst techy geeks not unusual, but in the overall community? Yes, you have quite the setup that many of us do not.

Could I wrangle one of my techy geek friends to help me get set up in a similar fashion as you? I could . . . but I don't want to. I'm fine with services like DDB. To each their own.
You buy a NAS. It is a box that you can slide 2 or more hard drives into. You install software on your computer. You plug it in and run the the software.

You do not need to have any skill other than, perhaps, a google search.
 

How many times can WOTC shoot themselves in the foot before the foot falls off?

Like, you don’t say the quote part out loud. Damn!
 

You're only thinking about your lifetime.

The reason the library of Alexandria was "lost" wasn't because of fire or pillaging like in Baghdad during the mongol invasions, but because there simply were not enough scribes to copy all the books before the paper disintegrated over time.
Wonder what they were hiding ;)
 

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