DerianCypher
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If a cleric of no devotion has an alginment change (TN to NE) does he have to atone in order to get spells again?
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Clerics and alignment change
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Alignment change has no special effects in 3e.
If you were the cleric of a LN, CN, or NG deity, switching to NE would require you to change to a new deity. If you "grossly violate the code of conduct" expected of your particular flavor of cleric, then you must atone. Other than that, any penalties that apply are purely the DM's judgement.
(Personally, I would definitely require some kind of atonement if the cleric were switching between turning/rebuking, or if the alignment switch forced him to change his domains. That's just me though.)
If you were the cleric of a LN, CN, or NG deity, switching to NE would require you to change to a new deity. If you "grossly violate the code of conduct" expected of your particular flavor of cleric, then you must atone. Other than that, any penalties that apply are purely the DM's judgement.
(Personally, I would definitely require some kind of atonement if the cleric were switching between turning/rebuking, or if the alignment switch forced him to change his domains. That's just me though.)
Li Shenron
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Technically, I think you can be a deityless Cleric, in which case you don't have a code to violate at all. IMHO the idea of a Cleric with no deity is completely wrong, since the rest of D&D material stresses the fact the all Cleric powers come not fron the man but from his deity; with no deity, where does a Cleric receive his spells from?
Unless you are a very special case of Cleric, such as the BoVD's Ur-Priest, it does not make much sense to lack the patron deity. However, by the rules it is feasible: possibly the rules are not meant to allow really deityless Cleric, but rather Cleric of a whole pantheons or group of deities, instead of a single one (which can make even more sense, depending on the campaign). So you could be a Cleric of the whole Elven pantheon (or of all its non-evil gods), or a generic cleric of all Good deities. It becomes a very DM issue what to allow and what not to, but IMHO Clerics are the most biased characters in the world, whichever their side, and ones who can freely wander through different alignment make no sense and should be disallowed.
Unless you give the whole deity system a totally different approach
Unless you are a very special case of Cleric, such as the BoVD's Ur-Priest, it does not make much sense to lack the patron deity. However, by the rules it is feasible: possibly the rules are not meant to allow really deityless Cleric, but rather Cleric of a whole pantheons or group of deities, instead of a single one (which can make even more sense, depending on the campaign). So you could be a Cleric of the whole Elven pantheon (or of all its non-evil gods), or a generic cleric of all Good deities. It becomes a very DM issue what to allow and what not to, but IMHO Clerics are the most biased characters in the world, whichever their side, and ones who can freely wander through different alignment make no sense and should be disallowed.
Unless you give the whole deity system a totally different approach
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