D&D General Concerns with returning to D&D in 2026

[abazaba]

If we do that can we please just point to that thread every time this gets brought up again? Please?

Yes please. Let's create a new thread that we can from here onwards gently direct all time travelers from the future to, to discuss all 'OGL debacle' things related. And let's not leave out the 'Pinkertons'.

Not sure what a neutral name for the thread would be, though. Naming it something like "The OGL: Is WotC Evil ?" sounds a little bit to much like click bait. Sorry.

 

[Scribe]

Yes please. Let's create a new thread that we can from here onwards gently direct all time travelers from the future to, to discuss all 'OGL debacle' things related. And let's not leave out the 'Pinkertons'.

Not sure what a neutral name for the thread would be, though. Naming it something like "The OGL: Is WotC Evil ?" sounds a little bit to much like click bait. Sorry.

No need to pretend there is a neutral framework for the discussion.

"The OGL Debacle: The damage Wizards tried to do to the 3PP Ecosystem, and how we came out better for it."

 

[mamba]

I figured (right or wrong) that these earlier versions were less encumbered by a focus on narratives/storyline/theater of mind, and use more straight-to-the-point wording to introduce the player to the game - it is, after all, less than 50 pages.

it’s a matter of what you are looking for, narrative / storyline are either an encumbrance or an important part of play.

If you are more into the old school style play, the OSR is a better fit than 5e

 

[Scribe]

On this note, some time before discovering this community and creating the thread, I went back to read the Holmes version and I'm perusing through B1 In Search of the Unknown as well, because I figured (right or wrong) that these earlier versions were less encumbered by a focus on narratives/storyline/theater of mind, and use more straight-to-the-point wording to introduce the player to the game - it is, after all, less than 50 pages. For example, while I've come across the term keying a dungeon, I was not aware that this term has existed in these earlier editions and that the maps were carefully made with a legend. A part of me wishes I played this instead of 3e frankly because it would have been significantly easier for everyone to get into the game, and get out alive. We didn't have the 3e Starter Sets/Basic Game/etc to play through otherwise that would have probably made a big difference. The B1 module in particular is very tempting and the backstory/plot isn't over or underwhelming.

I implore you, look into the OSR scene/movement. One does not need to be shackled to Wizards of the Coast, to play the best version of "D&D" you could even possibly imagine.

 

[abazaba]

No need to pretend there is a neutral framework for the discussion.

"The OGL Debacle: The damage Wizards tried to do to the 3PP Ecosystem, and how we came out better for it."

Hey ! I thought we agreed to no longer discuss this topic in this thread again ?

 

[Scribe]

Hey ! thought we agreed to no longer discuss this topic in this thread again ?

I'm not discussing it, after all there really isnt anything to discuss, the history is recent, its clear, everyone really knows what Wizards was trying to do.

I was just offering you a perfect thread title.

 

[abazaba]

I was just offering you a perfect thread title.

But, but, but... You left out the 'Pinkertons' !

 

[Scribe]

But, but, but... You left out the 'Pinkertons' !

That's not even the greatest of Wizards sins, but its also not part of the OGL Debacle!

 

[mamba]

But, but, but... You left out the 'Pinkertons' !

no one cares about the Pinkertons, have not seen any form of discussion about that in a while. The OGL on the other hand flares up every once in a while

 

[AlViking]

Yes please. Let's create a new thread that we can from here onwards gently direct all time travelers from the future to, to discuss all 'OGL debacle' things related. And let's not leave out the 'Pinkertons'.

Not sure what a neutral name for the thread would be, though. Naming it something like "The OGL: Is WotC Evil ?" sounds a little bit to much like click bait. Sorry.

I can add the Pinkertons I suppose. I was curious about what was actually said by the podcaster, not the uproar that followed. I'll see if I can track it down.

Maybe "OGL, Pinkertons and WOTC oh my!" As a title.