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<blockquote data-quote="MarauderX" data-source="post: 1946396" data-attributes="member: 9990"><p><strong>A few more Q & As on rules of engagement:</strong></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>They can still attempt a grapple, yes. There was a thread waaay back when that applied to this subject that implied there was some sort of penalty. For now, there is no penalty for any animal to grapple, though that animal will need to successfully hit with one of it's attacks as a regular attack, not a touch attack. Also, if the grappler doesn't have the appropriate feat (Improved Grapple, Improved Grab, Improved whatever), there will be an AoO. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Natural weapons do not act as tripping weapons, and therefor still incur the AoO if used without the Improved Trip or similar feat. </p><p></p><p>For all opponents: If the attack hits successfully, a trip may be attempted whether or not the target takes damage. So if a creature with DR 20/+5 were to be bitten by said dire wolf, the wolf still gets to make the trip attempt. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On the attack to start the grapple - yes.</p><p>On the initial grapple check itself - no. </p><p>In the rounds after which the target has been successfully grappled - yes, as per two or more grappling one opponent. </p><p>I haven't read any rules clarification on this, but this is my initial ruling.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MarauderX, post: 1946396, member: 9990"] [b]A few more Q & As on rules of engagement:[/b] They can still attempt a grapple, yes. There was a thread waaay back when that applied to this subject that implied there was some sort of penalty. For now, there is no penalty for any animal to grapple, though that animal will need to successfully hit with one of it's attacks as a regular attack, not a touch attack. Also, if the grappler doesn't have the appropriate feat (Improved Grapple, Improved Grab, Improved whatever), there will be an AoO. Natural weapons do not act as tripping weapons, and therefor still incur the AoO if used without the Improved Trip or similar feat. For all opponents: If the attack hits successfully, a trip may be attempted whether or not the target takes damage. So if a creature with DR 20/+5 were to be bitten by said dire wolf, the wolf still gets to make the trip attempt. On the attack to start the grapple - yes. On the initial grapple check itself - no. In the rounds after which the target has been successfully grappled - yes, as per two or more grappling one opponent. I haven't read any rules clarification on this, but this is my initial ruling. [/QUOTE]
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