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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9691303" data-attributes="member: 18">I mean, I feel like we've all met these players, some of them are in our groups!I think D&D particularly has an issue with people not learning the rules because it's so DM-centric - more so than most TTRPGs - the DM generally tells you what to roll and so on, so I think a lot of players get away with not learning the rules by just saying what they want to do and having the DM tell them what to roll, and then the DM also tells them what happens, so they basically don't have to know much, if they don't want to.That's less true of a lot of RPGs, where in order to play them properly, you kind of do have to actually understand the rules. This goes back even into the 1990s. You could get away with knowing very few of AD&D 2E's actual rules and not lose out on much, especially if you weren't a caster. But Shadowrun? Vampire? If you didn't understand the rules and just said what you were doing, you were much more likely to be genuinely losing out.Combine this DM-centric approach with loads of editions over the years, and a lot of rules that, frankly, don't really matter and are kind of boring/pointless in a lot of those editions (especially 3.XE), and I think D&D has an almost unique issue with people either not knowing or being confused about the rules.It's notable with my group even - these people have mostly played since the 1990s, they've played countless different RPGs, they pick up new RPGs well, but what RPG is most likely to lead them into rules-confusion or rules-forgetting? It's D&D.</blockquote>

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