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Divine Disciple PrC (FRCS) -- Waaay too powerful?
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<blockquote data-quote="The Little Raven" data-source="post: 1086023" data-attributes="member: 10095"><p><strong>Re: Divine Disciple PrC (FRCS) -- Waaay to powerful?</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Easy? Minimum of 7th-level to meet the requirements, so a 1st-level divine disciple is a 8th-level character. That's a higher level requirement than almost every other prestige class (except archmage and hierophant). Hell, the Mystic Theurge is easier and quicker to get into, with dual spellcasting increases and 10 levels.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wait... you say "many" but only list two? Two benefits for five levels is "many?" You must find the monk extremely overpowered, since it receives 12 benefits in its first five levels (2 bonus feats, flurry of blows, unarmed strike, evasion, still mind, ki strike, slow fall, purity of body, +10 movement, +1 AC, increased damage)...</p><p></p><p>Ummm. Where exactly does this bonus feat come from, besides your imagination? They gain an extra DOMAIN at 1st-level, to reflect their further adherence to their deity. This may net the divine disciple a bonus feat, but it is not a freely chosen bonus feat. That is a HUGE difference.</p><p></p><p>As for Transcendence... yeah, you can receive the effect of a <em>protection</em> spell, usable at will as a free action. A +2 deflection bonus to AC and a +2 resistance bonus to saves. At 12th-level (minimum to gain Transcendence), most characters would already have a deflection bonus to AC and a resistance bonus to certain saves... except the Transcendence bonus applies to a SINGLE alignment, and is limited in its scope. You also become an Outsider, which gives you a few benefits (charm person not working, for example).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you have a <em>protection from evil</em> when it's your turn. It's a free action, but if you get surprised, you can't activate it until you are able to act in combat. A subtle distinction, but an important one.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, since the bonus feat isn't even a part of the class, that doesn't help at all. I find the sacred defense to be much more powerful than the extra domain... after all, you gain up to a +2 bonus on all saves against divine magic. That's pretty good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Little Raven, post: 1086023, member: 10095"] [b]Re: Divine Disciple PrC (FRCS) -- Waaay to powerful?[/b] Easy? Minimum of 7th-level to meet the requirements, so a 1st-level divine disciple is a 8th-level character. That's a higher level requirement than almost every other prestige class (except archmage and hierophant). Hell, the Mystic Theurge is easier and quicker to get into, with dual spellcasting increases and 10 levels. Wait... you say "many" but only list two? Two benefits for five levels is "many?" You must find the monk extremely overpowered, since it receives 12 benefits in its first five levels (2 bonus feats, flurry of blows, unarmed strike, evasion, still mind, ki strike, slow fall, purity of body, +10 movement, +1 AC, increased damage)... Ummm. Where exactly does this bonus feat come from, besides your imagination? They gain an extra DOMAIN at 1st-level, to reflect their further adherence to their deity. This may net the divine disciple a bonus feat, but it is not a freely chosen bonus feat. That is a HUGE difference. As for Transcendence... yeah, you can receive the effect of a [i]protection[/i] spell, usable at will as a free action. A +2 deflection bonus to AC and a +2 resistance bonus to saves. At 12th-level (minimum to gain Transcendence), most characters would already have a deflection bonus to AC and a resistance bonus to certain saves... except the Transcendence bonus applies to a SINGLE alignment, and is limited in its scope. You also become an Outsider, which gives you a few benefits (charm person not working, for example). No, you have a [i]protection from evil[/i] when it's your turn. It's a free action, but if you get surprised, you can't activate it until you are able to act in combat. A subtle distinction, but an important one. Well, since the bonus feat isn't even a part of the class, that doesn't help at all. I find the sacred defense to be much more powerful than the extra domain... after all, you gain up to a +2 bonus on all saves against divine magic. That's pretty good. [/QUOTE]
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