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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aliensex" data-source="post: 1399949" data-attributes="member: 7917">It seems challenging, but not impossible by any means.  These are Gestault characters after all, so they are quite a bit more powerful than normal 6th level characters.It seems to me (from the description) that they used little or no strategy.  If they just charged in and started hacking away, the played right into the hobgoblin unit's strenght, basically falling into a trap.  If there was a corridor to the room, it would be no trouble for the monk/sorc to launch in fireballs to the formation, the rogue/ranger to fire arrows at anyone who broke formation, and for the paladin/bard to hack at anything that managed to get to the corridor.Its the players own fault the don't have a cleric, but between the ranger, bard, and paladin levels, they do have healing.If the players aren't into thinking tactically, then you can change how you lay out encounters for them (less prepared enemies, etc.), or you can force them to think and act more like a team, just decide it as a group how you guys want to play.P.S. players always want you to go softer on them, don't give in!  They always need some challenge. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>