Pathfinder 2E Do you think 1st or 2nd edition is more complicated?

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

But only as few of them are viable. Like if you're a melee character, you're trash unless you have pounce because they decided that its ok for an archer to get all their attacks or a caster to move and cast meteor swarm but god forbid a sword and board move and make all his attacks.

It generated what we called full attack chicken. Where if you walk up to the monster you only get 1 attack then it gets to unload on you with its 4.

Weirdly enough, I feel PF2 still has that problem with its multi-actions. Its better to let the enemy come to you then to run up to them.

 

[Justice and Rule]

Weirdly enough, I feel PF2 still has that problem with its multi-actions. Its better to let the enemy come to you then to run up to them.

It does and doesn't. You can effectively move in, hit, and move out through the 3-Action economy in a way that is arguably harder in other editions, especially with Attack of Opportunity being something everyone can do while Reactive Attack is generally more limited (though there are a lot of different reactions that take up that spot now). You never really want to stand in place with a big enemy in either edition, but I'd say melee combatants have more options in this case.

 

[Thomas Shey]

It does and doesn't. You can effectively move in, hit, and move out through the 3-Action economy in a way that is arguably harder in other editions, especially with Attack of Opportunity being something everyone can do while Reactive Attack is generally more limited (though there are a lot of different reactions that take up that spot now). You never really want to stand in place with a big enemy in either edition, but I'd say melee combatants have more options in this case.

Not only that, but using up one action is pretty painless in most cases, because a 3rd attack rarely matters; usually you're going to use it for something else anyway. Even using up two often is not that significant, since the first attack in a set is the most likely to hit and most likely to crit.

You can get occasional degenerate conditions where everyone tries to just make a single move and ready an attack, but honestly its just not worthwhile except against monsters up-rev from you, and often those are the last ones you want to give free rein to move as suits them.

But of course there's a lot of charging attack feats and the like too, and the fact attacks of opportunity are not as common in PF2e changes some of the dynamic too.