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Message: <blockquote data-quote="darjr" data-source="post: 8553251" data-attributes="member: 52905">No, 4e was flagging. WotC was in a bad way with D&D. So bad they took a good while to run the playtest without a real living edition. A big gamble and a ton of work on their part. While they gave stuff away. People did have a really good idea of what they were buying when the PHB dropped. The free basic set had been out and so had the starter set. 5e was a huge success out of the box largely on its it’s own merits. And continued to sell out for months, they had to delay the next core book, stopped it’s print run, to print more PHBs. Successful on its own, not because of trickery.You doubt there will be a playtest? Why? What makes you think they’d not do one?</blockquote>