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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9176141" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>The kids aren't into Greyhawk. That's really obvious from the way Greyhawk is discussed on reddits, Discords and so on, where people in their 20s and younger 30s and so on discuss D&D (as opposed to here, which is more of a 40-60 crowd). It's not an exciting retro setting they're keen to see come back - it gets dismissed in discussions of that topic (and indeed the way it's almost completely absent from Tiktok etc.).</p><p></p><p>However, to WotC, that's completely immaterial, because of the bolded bit.</p><p></p><p>I won't go into the full details again, because I had to do research and wrote it up in a post long ago, but both TSR and WotC have repeatedly tried to "make Greyhawk happen" after it was eclipsed by the Forgotten Realms in the later 1980s. Over and over. For the thirty+ years. None of it has worked. People just aren't interested, and <em>imho</em> that's because it's not inherently a cool or distinctive setting. It's more generic than the Forgotten Realms, which is saying something. Excuses can be made about it, but the fact is, the sort of people who work on D&D for WotC tend to love Greyhawk, but D&D's audience, for the last thirty years, has shown that it really just doesn't care. It's like trying to light a fire with a bow-drill and sopping wet materials. Even making it the implicit setting of 3E didn't work.</p><p></p><p>I know that's hard to hear if you're longer-term GH fan (as a Dark Sun fan I understand, it was hard to hear WotC basically say they'd never do Dark Sun - and really I'm a Taladas fan and that ain't NEVER coming back baby), but on the upside, even if D&D's audience as a whole doesn't care, the odds are good WotC will try and shove it on them anyway! So it's quite likely there will be more GH material or they'll shift it to being the "default setting" of D&D. I'm honestly surprised they've made so few attempts in 5E.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9176141, member: 18"] The kids aren't into Greyhawk. That's really obvious from the way Greyhawk is discussed on reddits, Discords and so on, where people in their 20s and younger 30s and so on discuss D&D (as opposed to here, which is more of a 40-60 crowd). It's not an exciting retro setting they're keen to see come back - it gets dismissed in discussions of that topic (and indeed the way it's almost completely absent from Tiktok etc.). However, to WotC, that's completely immaterial, because of the bolded bit. I won't go into the full details again, because I had to do research and wrote it up in a post long ago, but both TSR and WotC have repeatedly tried to "make Greyhawk happen" after it was eclipsed by the Forgotten Realms in the later 1980s. Over and over. For the thirty+ years. None of it has worked. People just aren't interested, and [I]imho[/I] that's because it's not inherently a cool or distinctive setting. It's more generic than the Forgotten Realms, which is saying something. Excuses can be made about it, but the fact is, the sort of people who work on D&D for WotC tend to love Greyhawk, but D&D's audience, for the last thirty years, has shown that it really just doesn't care. It's like trying to light a fire with a bow-drill and sopping wet materials. Even making it the implicit setting of 3E didn't work. I know that's hard to hear if you're longer-term GH fan (as a Dark Sun fan I understand, it was hard to hear WotC basically say they'd never do Dark Sun - and really I'm a Taladas fan and that ain't NEVER coming back baby), but on the upside, even if D&D's audience as a whole doesn't care, the odds are good WotC will try and shove it on them anyway! So it's quite likely there will be more GH material or they'll shift it to being the "default setting" of D&D. I'm honestly surprised they've made so few attempts in 5E. [/QUOTE]
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