D&D 5E Expertise is RUINING THE GAME!

[Garthanos]

You can Hide in Plain Sight with the Skulker Feat. You just need to be lightly obscured, as in dim light. I’m sorry, but no, .

The initial ingredient with a skill check involved actually did require something similar (possibly because it was just an at-will and included an attack, yes a smoke bomb might be possible) it the sustained part afterwards that is doing the impossible... its considered invisible and only required the first moment of being hidden and i can also do a bluff check to get hidden in the first place (a standard action to do though so it may be more efficient if you do have light cover)

This is what the wizard can do without a skill check or any other conditions ...


People probably do not take the feat because 5e feats are too much a resource they have to have high impact ...

 

[Garthanos]

The cloudform is an apples and oranges comparison because the rogue can become hidden in plain site pretty much every battle .... which is actually only valuable if are are a ranged specialist throwing shuriken around because once invisible no moving out of the square you were in. But firin crossbow or using shuriken would be just fine.

 

[Garthanos]

As for the expended resource, that’s just another resource to keep track of, gumming up the works, and nerfs the Rogue, which is unnecessary.

I would be inclined to use both... ie keep the numbers porn and have a resource that allows reliable awesome. Spell casters will always be more powerful if you are not putting a limited resource behind making extraordinary non-magic effort.

Not acknowledging that is another form of playing pretend.

 

[Garthanos]

Thing is yes 4e says yes my mid paragon rogue can distract enemies with a bluff check and hide move to a new location without cover and go invisible in plain sight all using rogue appropriate skills and a skill power so yeh 5e says no YOU CANNOT DO THE IMPOSSIBLE and it says err you can pretend dodging is like a super hero thing or hitting a lot is impossible.

There is a monk at-will maneuver that does a d8+dex damage to every adjacent enemy and a sword mage that lets them attack up 8 targets and an archer who can fire like Hiawatha 9 arrows all at what would be level 5 in 5e....