RigaMortus
Explorer
If I have a Shield +1, and make an off-hand attack with it, do I add the +1 to hit and damage, or is the +1 strickly for Armor Class?
Where can I find the rule on this?
Where can I find the rule on this?
Shields: Shield enhancement bonuses stack with armor enhancement bonuses. Shield enhancement bonuses do not act as attack or damage bonuses when the shield is used in a bash. The bashing shield enchantment, however, does grant a +1 bonus to attacks and damage (see the item description). You could, in fact, build a shield that also acted as a magic weapon, but the magic offensive bonus cost would need to be added into the defensive bonus cost of the shield.
Hypersmurf said:If you want an enhancement bonus to attacks and damage, you have to magicify your shield as a weapon, at twice the cost of the normal shield enhancement.
You can have a Shield +2 which is also a +1 blunt weapon, for example, which will cost you 4000 for the +2 AC, and 2000 for the +1 attack/damage, or a Shield +1 which is also a +2 blunt weapon, which will cost you 1000 for the +1 AC, and 8000 for the +2 attack/damage, or whatever up to +5/+5 for 25k/50k respectively.
-Hyp.
If you know a specific ruling on this, let me know.
SheepLord said:If you wanted a shield with magical attacking abilities, I would go this route:
enchanted shield spikes
I love the armour and shield spikes in 3E. They are a weapon and can be enchanted as such. I gave an gnoll captain a +1 shield with +2 shocking shield spikes. He was quite the scary packages, but didn't look all that tough just walking up to him. A character in my campaign just lost a suit of masterwork full plate with masterwork armour spikes in a bet.
Yes, like bashing. A specific enhancement (costs a lot more than just a +1 weapon). Is there a printed example of enhancing a shield as a weapon.Hypersmurf said:
More specific than "but the magic offensive bonus cost would need to be added into the defensive bonus cost of the shield"?
-Hyp.
LokiDR said:
Yes, like bashing. A specific enhancement (costs a lot more than just a +1 weapon). Is there a printed example of enhancing a shield as a weapon.
I don't argue that you can't do it. I just don't agree with the cost you listed.
Caliban said:
The bashing enchancement is a shield ability and is priced like an armor ability, not weapon ability.
The DMG specifically states that you can enchant a shield as a weapon, which makes sense because a shield is treated as both armor and a weapon. It can receive either type of enhancement, and they are priced seperately.
I personally think that a shield is limited to a total of +10 in enhancements, wether they are offensive or defensive enhancements. But it's not clearly stated in the rules, so that's just my opinion on how it should be balanced.