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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 6765187" data-attributes="member: 18182">I disagree with almost everything in your post, so I'll just pick a few points.Racism is tricky, as on the face of it, racism is treated as evil by D&D from the beginning. But, it's okay to hate, or be racist towards, the "evil" races like drow, orcs, chromatic dragons, etc. This is very mythic as these races are often considered inherently evil, much like the monsters of real-world mythology. But it raises (for many of us) uncomfortable parallels with real racism, when one group of people demonizes another in order to justify racism, discrimination, oppression, war, and other atrocities.But this doesn't make racism "just part of the character of a place."And slavery has never been viewed in a positive or neutral light in D&D, it has always been considered an evil act. There are societies within various D&D worlds that practice slavery, but this is in opposition to the heroes and "goodness".I don't exactly follow how expressing my opinion somehow diminishes your own. To convince me that I have, you are going to have to try harder. And avoid loaded language like "politically correct" in doing so.Read more.Um, I did. I think I mentioned that.Well, my campaign has evil gods, and they act like jerks. There are also neutral gods, and gods who consider themselves good, who act like jerks. But the gods who truly embody justice, truth, and the American way? They don't. In my campaign.Aeons ago, before the modern age, I earned a degree in Anthropology and also did extensive studies in history, religion, folklore, and mythology. Which made me less than employable, but man, did I enjoy those five or so years of my life. To be young again . . . . ahem, anyway . . . this is where I get my views on history, myth, morals, and etc, etc. While I haven't kept up since college, I doubt much has changed, other than perhaps my memory.But I'll stand by my claim, throughout history, if you delve to the moral heart of most cultures and religions, you will find the Golden Rule. Treat others as you would like others to treat you. This rule encourages altruism, and discourages selfishness. Now, of course, various cultures and religions layer a lot of crap on top of the Golden Rule and folks like to get all dogmatic and use the unnecessary details as an excuse to be selfish and inflict evil upon their fellow man. This makes for a lot of pain and grief in the world, but great fiction!Not what I'm doing. But we've covered that.You and I probably won't convince each other of anything, and I doubt at this point our conversation is going to get anymore civil. Especially with that loaded phrase again, "political correctness". *shudder*</blockquote>

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