General star wars talk/discussion/complaining

[Paul Farquhar]

I don't even think that was the problem. The problem was that they tried to fan service and describe every little bit about what made Han, Han. Even down to his blaster. Some things just don't need to be explained. Those bits could have been replaced by more fleshing out of him as a character instead of just bits.

The problem with Solo is that it was three stories jammed into one movie. We have Story One: childhood and imperial service, Story Two: the disastrous train job, and Story Three The Kessel Run. Of these, only story three was good and properly developed. You could, for example, have built an entire movie about Han's misadventures as an Imperial pilot, and that would have been much more interesting than the mostly cut and crammed in narrative in Solo. Beckett's crew didn't get enough screen time for us to care about those character deaths.

The blaster is a non-issue. Did we need to see where Han got his blaster? No. Did it's inclusion harm the movie? No.

 

[Zardnaar]

The problem with Solo is that it was three stories jammed into one movie. We have Story One: childhood and imperial service, Story Two: the disastrous train job, and Story Three The Kessel Run. Of these, only story three was good and properly developed. You could, for example, have built an entire movie about Han's misadventures as an Imperial pilot, and that would have been much more interesting than the mostly cut and crammed in narrative in Solo. Beckett's crew didn't get enough screen time for us to care about those character deaths.

The blaster is a non-issue. Did we need to see where Han got his blaster? No. Did it's inclusion harm the movie? No.

EU Han Trilogy was very good as well.

Solo was fun. Basically inoffensive. Holds up better on rewatch than say TFA.

B+ on a tier list.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

EU Han Trilogy was very good as well.

Han Solo Adventures (Brain Daley) were great. The later EU Han Solo prequel novels not so much. I would have loved a Han Solo at Stars End movie. And that would have been more like Mandalorian and Grogu: beginning with our protagonists already assembled, and sending them on a relatively low stakes (compared to saving the galaxy) adventure.

 

[Zardnaar]

Han Solo Adventures (Brain Daley) were great. The later EU Han Solo prequel novels not so much. I would have loved a Han Solo at Stars End movie. And that would have been more like Mandalorian and Grogu: beginning with our protagonists already assembled, and sending them on a relatively low stakes (compared to saving the galaxy) adventure.

Never found those ones.

The Han prequel trilogy is generally well regarded in EU circles. Ymmv of course. I liked them in the 90s but its been decades since I read them.

 

[delericho]

Solo was fun. Basically inoffensive.

I agree with this. But, unfortunately, I consider that a problem: while I don't see anything to dislike about the movie, I also see precious little to like.

I contrast that with "The Last Jedi", which I really didn't like. But I'll still hold that up as the better film because it at least tried to do something new and different. "Solo" was fine, but it didn't give me any real reason to bother going to see it.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I agree with this. But, unfortunately, I consider that a problem: while I don't see anything to dislike about the movie, I also see precious little to like.

I contrast that with "The Last Jedi", which I really didn't like. But I'll still hold that up as the better film because it at least tried to do something new and different. "Solo" was fine, but it didn't give me any real reason to bother going to see it.

Trying to do something new and different in the penultimate film in a decades long series is not, IMO, a virtue.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Trying to do something new and different in the penultimate film in a decades long series is not, IMO, a virtue.

The whole sequel trilogy should have been new and different. The “decades long series” was finished, trying to endlessly remake the same story is a sure fire sign of franchise death.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The whole sequel trilogy should have been new and different. The “decades long series” was finished, trying to endlessly remake the same story is a sure fire sign of franchise death.

Maybe so, but once they started the sequel trilogy, not being consistent with it in vision is IMO a terrible storytelling error.

 

[MarkB]

Maybe so, but once they started the sequel trilogy, not being consistent with it in vision is IMO a terrible storytelling error.

Not going into the trilogy with a plan for the entire three-movie story, in the MCU era, was a remarkable and nigh inconceivable lack of foresight.

 

[Zaukrie]

Not going into the trilogy with a plan for the entire three-movie story, in the MCU era, was a remarkable and nigh inconceivable lack of foresight.

This. How do you own this IP and not have a plan?