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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vivictus" data-source="post: 930068" data-attributes="member: 8364">Ok, that answered a lot. I didin't think to look in the Monsters section for the template. Doh! Also, I didn't notice the "fully" manifested part of the flying feats. Now it makes more sense.I assume then also (I'll read more) that since it's incorporeal that it can also move through solid objects, though it can't see while in them, right?In my campaign I think I am going to change the rules for the Calling. I am still going to have the Calling try to pull the characters in, but I don't want them to be "required" to eventually heed that call as the rules have it normally. I think I am going to keep the Calling rule and modify it. I will allow ghosts to choose other "normal" classes instead of just the eidolon ones, and these will help offset the Calling. So, if a ghost wants to be totally immune to being forced into the Veil through level 20 then he'd have to mix his eidolon levels with normal levels so the eidolon ones don't automatically surpass the normal ones and force him to the Veil. However, this leaves the option open if the ghost wants to take more eidolon levels he can, but he risks the chance of being Called. I never liked rules in games that can cause instant death to a PC (even though they're easy to raise here) or limit them to very few options. See, this way they can choose to keep normal classes, but even if they don't, they can be Called, and when that happens, they can then be raised pretty easily.Also, I noticed that Ectoplasm disperses in 10 minutes. It didn't mention any difference in the ectoplasm that dead ghosts leave behind, so in order to raise them as a ghost, I assume that the players will want to carry around some of that alchemical powder (forget what it's called) that preserves it for 10 days instead. Perhaps they should carry a LOT of it in case they are far away from Manifest or the player being raised wants to then lose a level. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />Anyway, thanks for the replies. The template will surely help and now I know to be much more careful for the words "Fully Manifested". <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Edit: Oh yeah, I will be reading many threads on the various boards about this and hopefully get enough information to create a type of FAQ to help people out who just asked the same questions I did. See, I read a book cover to cover generally so I am only in the City area now, and just finished the history of Manifest, so I hadn't gotten to the ghost template yet. I thought the chapter one covered everything and was confused.</blockquote>

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