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[GUIDE] Bow Bond: An Eldritch Knight’s guide to Archery
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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7353708" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>I'm glad you and your group luckily stumbled upon the currently settled interpretation of crossbow expertise on your own. For you to think that you and your group figured it out because you were somehow smarter than everyone else before you is naïve and offensive. </p><p></p><p>In the wild wild west of early era 5e there were many opinions about how the various rules interacted and especially so for hand crossbows. It was a different time without much sage advice and without many tweets to settle issues we had to reason through it amongst ourselves. Don't get me wrong, the camp you fall in on this issue was also around in the early 5e era with much the same reasoning as you have. It's just there were competing interpretations at that time. Popular alternatives generally consisted of using the rules alone as the framework for what is allowed. For example: there was no rule that forbade loading it one handed and it was a one handed weapon afterall. By this view you requiring a freehand to load a handcrossbow considered a houserule as you are providing an additional rule about the loading of crossbow ammunition that isn't found inside the PHB rules. This spawned numerous threads about houserules and what should qualify as one. The most infamous of such threads questioned whether gravity was a houserule or whether fire provided light or heat or whether you should be able to move straight vertical with your movement or through walls with it or wether all these things were also houserules or perhaps whether some other word than RAW and RAI and HOUSERULE needed adding to the rules vocabulary in order to describe these outside the game rules that nonetheless weren't RAW or RAI or houserules.</p><p></p><p>Needless to say, it was a big cluster of a time with tensions running high in every camp. If you weren't there I doubt you will ever truly understand the blood sweat and tears those before you have poured into this issue and it's ultimate culmination where the PHB was actually changed in response to it all. If you were there for all this then this thread is a piece of history and for you to deem it unworthy of respect is somewhat offensive to us.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7353708, member: 6795602"] I'm glad you and your group luckily stumbled upon the currently settled interpretation of crossbow expertise on your own. For you to think that you and your group figured it out because you were somehow smarter than everyone else before you is naïve and offensive. In the wild wild west of early era 5e there were many opinions about how the various rules interacted and especially so for hand crossbows. It was a different time without much sage advice and without many tweets to settle issues we had to reason through it amongst ourselves. Don't get me wrong, the camp you fall in on this issue was also around in the early 5e era with much the same reasoning as you have. It's just there were competing interpretations at that time. Popular alternatives generally consisted of using the rules alone as the framework for what is allowed. For example: there was no rule that forbade loading it one handed and it was a one handed weapon afterall. By this view you requiring a freehand to load a handcrossbow considered a houserule as you are providing an additional rule about the loading of crossbow ammunition that isn't found inside the PHB rules. This spawned numerous threads about houserules and what should qualify as one. The most infamous of such threads questioned whether gravity was a houserule or whether fire provided light or heat or whether you should be able to move straight vertical with your movement or through walls with it or wether all these things were also houserules or perhaps whether some other word than RAW and RAI and HOUSERULE needed adding to the rules vocabulary in order to describe these outside the game rules that nonetheless weren't RAW or RAI or houserules. Needless to say, it was a big cluster of a time with tensions running high in every camp. If you weren't there I doubt you will ever truly understand the blood sweat and tears those before you have poured into this issue and it's ultimate culmination where the PHB was actually changed in response to it all. If you were there for all this then this thread is a piece of history and for you to deem it unworthy of respect is somewhat offensive to us. [/QUOTE]
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