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Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix (film #5) - Rampant speculation and bashing!
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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 2736393" data-attributes="member: 2205"><p>The past films coasted on the popularity of the source material. They weren't really very good movies in their own right. And the formula was demonstrably not that successful; the takes of the movies was down nearly $100 million between 1 and 3.</p><p></p><p>On what are you basing that claim? This movie, more than the past ones, was self-contained, in my opinion--depending less on what the viewer supposedly already knew to coast through the plot. And I certainly haven't seen any indication of any dividing line as you describe. If you want to make claims like that, find something to back them up! Critical reviews and user reviews on sites like Yahoo! and whatnot lean exactly the opposite way; folks in general are liking this movie the best of all the Harry Potter movies to date, regardless of whether or not they've seen the movie, for the most part.</p><p></p><p>That's the joy of speaking with empirical data behind you instead of trying to make out your own opinion out to be some kind of Truth.</p><p></p><p>They're not "dumping" him, he stepped down. On a high note, in my opinion, since he really got his feel for the HP movies after the lackluster "lighter" scripts he wrote for the first two books. And since the new selected screenwriter has had a string of poorly viewed screenplays under his belt, with only one real "hit", I'm skeptical.</p><p></p><p>No doubt. You've made your disdain for every aspect of the new movie abundantly clear in several threads now. Don't look for him to come back anytime soon, though--just the opening weekend take for 4 was almost half of the <em>entire run</em> of 3.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 2736393, member: 2205"] The past films coasted on the popularity of the source material. They weren't really very good movies in their own right. And the formula was demonstrably not that successful; the takes of the movies was down nearly $100 million between 1 and 3. On what are you basing that claim? This movie, more than the past ones, was self-contained, in my opinion--depending less on what the viewer supposedly already knew to coast through the plot. And I certainly haven't seen any indication of any dividing line as you describe. If you want to make claims like that, find something to back them up! Critical reviews and user reviews on sites like Yahoo! and whatnot lean exactly the opposite way; folks in general are liking this movie the best of all the Harry Potter movies to date, regardless of whether or not they've seen the movie, for the most part. That's the joy of speaking with empirical data behind you instead of trying to make out your own opinion out to be some kind of Truth. They're not "dumping" him, he stepped down. On a high note, in my opinion, since he really got his feel for the HP movies after the lackluster "lighter" scripts he wrote for the first two books. And since the new selected screenwriter has had a string of poorly viewed screenplays under his belt, with only one real "hit", I'm skeptical. No doubt. You've made your disdain for every aspect of the new movie abundantly clear in several threads now. Don't look for him to come back anytime soon, though--just the opening weekend take for 4 was almost half of the [i]entire run[/i] of 3. [/QUOTE]
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