Haste and Full Round Spells

[Lord Vangarel]

I know 3.5 will fix this but this question came up during last nights game.

If a wizard has Haste running and wants to cast a Summon Monster spell starting with the hasted partial action when does the spell finish?

 

[Naar]

My interpretation would be that you could use the partial action from Haste to start the casting, finish casting on your standard action and then be able to perform a move-equivalent action.

I think this may not be entirely correct, since Summon Monster isn't exactly a full-round action, like a metamagic'd Sorcerer spell, instead taking one full round to cast, but it's close enough.

 

[Lord Vangarel]

That's kind of the way we let it stand but I'm still doubtful it's the correct way.

 

[Naar]

I think the technically correct way would be that you have to use your normal full round (standard action + move-equivalent action) to get the Summon Monster spell off, then you get a partial action from Haste. The summoned creature would then appear next round on your turn.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

AFAIK you can use your standard action (including move action) to start casting, and then use your partial action to finish it. The effect will occur on your turn yet.

 

[Jemal]

Yes, if you didn't move that round you could Haste and then Summon.
HOWEVER, a sorc. couldn't Haste and then cast a Metamagic Spell, b/c the extra partial action occurs either imeediately BEFORE or AFTER your round, not DURING it, so cannot be used as part of a full-round action, though a spell that takes a full round to cast can be done with Haste, as it's not an actual 'full-round action'
This also means that a figtr/wiz couldn't Haste and then Full-attack.

And that's NOT my opinion (contrary to my sig).
This is accordng to the Sage from Dragon Magazine, he answered a similar question about partial actions VS Standard actions VS full-round actions.

 

[Hypersmurf]

... though a spell that takes a full round to cast can be done with Haste, as it's not an actual 'full-round action'.

You mean despite the line on PHB p148 under 'Casting Time' that says "A spell that takes 1 full round to cast is a full-round action"?

-Hyp.