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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 2408050" data-attributes="member: 4937">It sounds like your player's are adopting a mature approach to combat.   Combat is dangerous.   Hense, it should be avoided except when it is absolutely necessary, and even then preferably you should only fight when the odds are rigged in your favor.Besides, running around killing everything is more of a mark of a sociopath than anything else.   Real good guys are interested only in killing the minimal number of people necessary to bring about peace.   Why expect your heroes to desire to kill the maximal ammount just because the players - if they were metagaming - know that that is the best way to advance thier characters using D&D's violence promoting XP system?In order to get mature players to get involved in combat, the best strategy is to make villians which are so despicable that the player's (and of course characters) are emotionally involved in wanting to 'get these guys'.   Figure out what your players (or thier characters if they are exceptional roleplayers) find utterly offensive and inexcusable, then design your villains accordingly.   Your players will still probably try to avoid as many fights as possible, but they will also actively seek out fights with the villian(s) and his or her minions.Overall, I think it sounds like your problem stems from not having enough of a 'mission' structure to your game.  Heroic PC's are generally motivated by the same sorts of things that motivate police officers or soldiers.   Soldiers or police officers do not desire to get into combat.   In combat, they can be killed.   If there is a way to avoid the combat, they will.  But there are things that soldiers and police officers love more than they love life.   If the mission calls for a solider or police officer to put themselves into harms way and get into combat, then for the sake of the mission that is what happens.   It's not a desire for violence.   It's a desire to see a mission accomplished.   It's a desire to see that the bad guys don't win, that thier ideas don't carry the day, and that the way of life they desire for thier community is protected.If that's not the motivation behind your PC's characters, then its going to be very very hard to force them into combat no matter what you do.   If your PC's characters are basically self-interested, then of course they will always avoid combat.   The potential risks will NEVER out weight the potential rewards.</blockquote>

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