Truth Seeker
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Closer to You
While Hiro and Ando attempt to save Suresh, Bennet tries to expose Samuel's weakness in his attempt to defeat the carnival leader.
Heroes Vol 5 #15:Closer to You/Season 4/2010
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i liked the way they tried to tie back to the people's "life" getting affected by the situation (rather than the situation being the focus), like Matt and Noah struggling to keep their family together while figuring how to deal with it all, etc.
Some of the scenes/scenarios seemed too convinient though... but over all, was an alright episode.
Some of the scenes/scenarios seemed too convinient though... but over all, was an alright episode.
Dire Bare
Legend
I really liked this episode! Perhaps it was the return of so many familiar faces, not sure. I think it might have been the sense that things are finally starting to move. But had a great time watching!
Best line of the evening, "It's like swimming, but inside out!"
Line that almost made me want to cheer, "Hello boys." (Last line of the episode)
Best line of the evening, "It's like swimming, but inside out!"
Line that almost made me want to cheer, "Hello boys." (Last line of the episode)
Darth Shoju
First Post
I think I'll have to avoid posting my opinion so as to not come across as a thread crapper. Suffice it to say, I wasn't a fan of that episode.
Dire Bare
Legend
Aw, come on! If you just pop in to say that you felt the episode sucked . . . well, that's pretty close to threadcrapping.
But if you explain WHY you didn't care for it, and avoid hyperbole, it could spark discussion!
Mark
CreativeMountainGames.com
Best line of the evening, "It's like swimming, but inside out!"
Might be the best line of the series.
They seem to have used this episode to follow Parkman's advice and get their house in order. I have a couple of questions -
Do we know if Lauren has a power? They seem to have skirted that issue.
How about Joseph? I'm not sure I understand just what his ability was capable of doing. He seemed to be able to thwart other abilties but I'm not sure just how.
I have a strange recollection that her main partner (prior to the fall of primatech) was a powered person (there was some throw away line where she says to Noah "well, you know how it is working with one of them"). Thus, with the "one of us one of them" mentality, that means she didn't have a power.
But, of course, that statement is based off a weak memory and an assumption. So take it for whatever little the opinion is worth.
That's Samuel's brother, right? It hasn't been mentioned explicitly that I know of. He just (as far as I understood) emotionally kept his brother under control -- there may or may not have been any power usage involved there.
Given that their parents (based on what Dr S said in the black and white film reel) had powers, it's highly likely that Joseph does, just don't know (for certain) what it is.
Darth Shoju
First Post
Well I'm not sure if I'm really up for a discussion on it, and I think I've blocked much of the episode (and this season) from my memory, but here goes...
Hiro's supposedly fatal illness is exceptionally vague in nature and has manifested in ridiculous ways (ie. the fanboy jargon he was stuck in). The fact that Ando was able to cure the jargon by electrocuting his brain was awful.
Why didn't Mohinder use his super strength to get out of the asylum before they drugged him? I have to admit I don't remember Hiro taking him there in the first place, but would they have sedated him so quickly that he couldn't just walk out?
I hated the whole Parkman element to the episode as well. Here's a guy who seems to have suffered no repercussions from the crime spree he was involved in when he was Sylar, and also apparently forgot (or simply abandoned) whatever moral resolutions he made after that experience. He compels that women to assist them with little more than a moment's hesitation. Nevermind that there was very little foreshadowing of that character's existence at all.
What is the situation with the carnaval? Why is it so difficult to find? If it's such a mystery, how do customers keep finding it? Couldn't Parkman and Bennet simply pay the admission like all those other people?
The powers of the various characters are so wildly inconsistent and unclear it leaves me to think the writers change them for the sake of plot convenience on an episode-by-episode basis. How do the tatooed woman's powers work? What are they? She seemed to use them as a form of augury at some point, but then it seems it was the ink that Samuel makes that does that. Last episode she seemed to charm Sylar with some sort of seduction power (wuh?), and then she can give tatoos through dreams (to Peter).
The deaf woman that plays the cello can see sound as colour, make concussive blasts, summon people with music -- and apparently kills thousands of people somehow? Is that a function of her power or the cello? Peter destroying the cello was bizarre and melodramatic.
Frankly that's all I can dredge from my memory at this point. Ultimately this episode just seems to sum up the problems with the whole season (and I suppose the series as well). Plot threads are abandoned, characters act in bizarre and inconsistent ways, with their powers being just as erratic, and the overall plot isn't clear at all. It very much seems the writers are making this thing up one episode at a time.
I have no idea why I'm still watching it. Morbid curiosity perhaps? I don't know. But looking at this thread, there seems to be a few folks who are still enjoying it, so I should probably stay out of the discussion threads here.
RangerWickett
Legend
As much as I feel silly defending the show (since I used to complain about it all the time), I think at least a few of your critiques were unfair.
First, Hiro has a brain tumor or something, sure, but his brain was addled by the carnie guy. It wasn't addled by the tumor.
Second, the deaf woman has a lot of sound-themed powers. See sound, blast with it, and charm people. So like a bard or something. That's all reasonable. I'm guessing Ma Patrelli saw a vision of the deaf woman's power interacting with someone else's power in a way that leads to lots of folks dying.
But when Peter had the vague vision of her playing the cello, and his first response was to go to her apartment and break the damned thing, I actually cheered, because that's a perfectly rational response to seeing the future and thinking you can change it. It's like something my players would do. "Oh, so she's gonna use that cello to do something bad. Well, easiest solution is to just break the durned thing."
Then they find out Samuel has like 5 more just like it.
Not great, no. Parkman either should be in prison, or should have had his wife joke about, "You're lucky you can mind control people to forget all that crap you did." Noah Bennet apparently jet set from NY to LA to NY in one day, and still had time to chase Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium. And I don't know what the tattooed woman's powers are either, but I don't know if she actually contacted Peter. I'm guessing, like, she can let people see things.
But obviously the carnival teleports.
First, Hiro has a brain tumor or something, sure, but his brain was addled by the carnie guy. It wasn't addled by the tumor.
Second, the deaf woman has a lot of sound-themed powers. See sound, blast with it, and charm people. So like a bard or something. That's all reasonable. I'm guessing Ma Patrelli saw a vision of the deaf woman's power interacting with someone else's power in a way that leads to lots of folks dying.
But when Peter had the vague vision of her playing the cello, and his first response was to go to her apartment and break the damned thing, I actually cheered, because that's a perfectly rational response to seeing the future and thinking you can change it. It's like something my players would do. "Oh, so she's gonna use that cello to do something bad. Well, easiest solution is to just break the durned thing."
Then they find out Samuel has like 5 more just like it.
Not great, no. Parkman either should be in prison, or should have had his wife joke about, "You're lucky you can mind control people to forget all that crap you did." Noah Bennet apparently jet set from NY to LA to NY in one day, and still had time to chase Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium. And I don't know what the tattooed woman's powers are either, but I don't know if she actually contacted Peter. I'm guessing, like, she can let people see things.
But obviously the carnival teleports.
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