How do you give an accessible comparison to a non-role-player of a TRPG session lasting 4 hours?

I want to mention 2 things before I get into the issue:
1) I know some role-players like to have sessions closer to 2 hours, and don't have time or interest in longer ones. I'm talking to all of the gamers who are accustomed to sessions of 4 hours or longer.
2) The conversations I'm talking about are not in the context of inviting someone to play with us, they are just in context of explaining playing RPGs to friends.

I have had multiple instance when I'm telling a non-role-player how long sessions last, and they just can't even comprehend it. They seem to think they have no frame of reference for the sort of time spent on a recreational activity that I'm talking about.

This despite that fact that I have good reason to believe they do have frames of reference. The people I'm talking to typically have kids now, but they should be able to relate to their younger days when they would have a night out with friends, or a long date, involving dinner, a movie, and maybe another activity all baked in. And most certainly for many people in their demographics that would have been a frequent occurrence in their college days. They seem to have poor memory when I try to use that as an example, however. (Again, these aren't random people from a younger generation that has shorter activities, but friends that I'm almost certain had the sorts of experiences I'm talking about, because they were ubiquitous.)

I've occasionally tried to reference a high school team sports game, and how those players spend a lot of time practicing, and then have all the pre-game and post-game time in addition to the actual time on the field. Still, I think their mind only remembers the actual time spent there as a spectator. I mention Super Bowl parties, but that's "only once a year", so doesn't help them get the idea of doing this weekly.

I could mention a Monopoly game, but that generally isn't something people want to do very often, lol.

I wonder if, for a lot of them, they can't seem to get out of an inappropriate mental comparison with booting up a gaming console and sitting down with controllers. Yeah, some people do that for a long time, but for most people 30 minutes to 2 hours max is about right. I don't know; that's my best guess.

There's also the fact that people tend to spread their recreational activities out over the week, rather than in a single stretch, and I don't know that there's an easy way to get past that, because doing anything for 4 hours has seemed crazy to some of my friends (again, despite the fact that I know they have reasonable frames of reference from their earlier lives).

So what examples can you guys think of that would give a non-role-player a proper frame of reference for a recreational activity they enjoy being a weekly 4-hour event?
 

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As a social thing, apt comparisons seem to include things like bowling leagues or choirs or maybe book clubs (though the book clubs I've sat in on lasted like an hour, not four). If your friends don't (or didn't) do board games with friends/family growing up, they probably won't have any tabletop game-type comparison. On some level you could compare it to a watch party, I guess, but TRPGs are much more creatively active than that. I guess you could compare it to being in a garage/basement band and practicing once a week for a few hours, but that's not going to be a common experience.
 



Baseball games seem to run for dozens of hours. At least that’s how it seems to a pleb like me.
Forty-five minutes of action spread out over three-ish hours. Seems like an apt comparison to some TRPG play to me.

EDIT: I am a baseball fan, and the TRPG play I'm referencing includes at least some of the sessions I run. This is a toe-shot, not an attack on anyone else.
 

A four-hour session is like watching a lot of professional sports games, especially if there's some pre-game stuff. A lot of sports fans do that multiple times a week.
Yeah, with this as a very common example of what mundane (as in non-gamer) people do regularly, my mind kind of boggles that people are having trouble with the concept of doing things in a 4-hour stretch. I mean if you just sit down for a Packers game with friends at noon on a Sunday, you're going to be there until 3ish already. Add in the pre-game, post-game, other pleasantries (and possibly sobering up a little - oh, who am I kidding, I live in Wisconsin:rolleyes:), and you're at or exceeding 4 hours.
 

  • Watching a baseball game or football game (even on TV, though more time if you go in person).
  • Going to a concert (at least one that's not down the street, so you have to drive or take a train, and likely get dinner out the same evening).
  • Going on a date.
  • Playing in a local amateur sports club, like pickleball, volleyball, softball, soccer, basketball, etc.
  • Going golfing.
  • Attending a local board game night.
  • Attending bar trivia (probably two hours?) and hanging out and socializing with your friends for the remainder of the evening.
  • Going for a hike (can easily take all day, but just a full morning or afternoon is common).
 


I often talk about movies and people look at me like im crazy to sit for 2 hours. Then, they tell me about binging entire seasons of shows over the weekend or even a single sitting.

I think the trick is going to be thinking about the person and putting it into context. Do they binge shows? Then explain how playing a gaming session is like enjoying a show for the same amount of time. Its entertainment. The sports mentioned above is a good one. Not everyone is a sports fan but many are. A typical game lasts 3-4 hours. Folks often play cribbage or other cards games for hours on end.

Ill be honest though, when it comes to folks not familiar with RPGs I dont spend much time fully explaining it. I always feel like Ill end up like this guy.
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