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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6396889" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I do not understand how your post relates to mine that you replied to.</p><p></p><p>I suspect that the Dragon exists in 99% of the games run, good DM or bad DM.</p><p></p><p>The Dragon, in my mind, is the main problem in Greenest. In fact, the only other issue I have with Greenest is the Half Dragon encounter and that one is merely lame. The rest of the encounters are fine as far as I know.</p><p></p><p>If we are discussing railroading, I think that the Dragon is a main engine. Players feel railroaded when they do not feel like they have a choice. Good DM or bad DM, I think that some players feel like they do not have a choice and have to go to Greenest.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think that the dragon part of the discussion has much to do with the quality of the DM. It has to do with the quality of the adventure design.</p><p></p><p>For those people who did not even question their PCs going to a town with a dragon flying overhead, I have to wonder why not? Are you not roleplaying your PC at least to the point that it would be discussed? Or are you metagaming that this as the direction being shown to you by the DM, hence, it's the adventure and it's all good? I do know that in the Mike Mearls video, the fact that a dragon was flying overhead was not even much of a consideration. Course to be fair, it did not look like he had experienced players there.</p><p></p><p>Mearls also mentions that the town is engulfed in flame. So much for the town "not really burning" posts. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> It might not be burning in the module, but I bet it was at some tables.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6396889, member: 2011"] I do not understand how your post relates to mine that you replied to. I suspect that the Dragon exists in 99% of the games run, good DM or bad DM. The Dragon, in my mind, is the main problem in Greenest. In fact, the only other issue I have with Greenest is the Half Dragon encounter and that one is merely lame. The rest of the encounters are fine as far as I know. If we are discussing railroading, I think that the Dragon is a main engine. Players feel railroaded when they do not feel like they have a choice. Good DM or bad DM, I think that some players feel like they do not have a choice and have to go to Greenest. I don't think that the dragon part of the discussion has much to do with the quality of the DM. It has to do with the quality of the adventure design. For those people who did not even question their PCs going to a town with a dragon flying overhead, I have to wonder why not? Are you not roleplaying your PC at least to the point that it would be discussed? Or are you metagaming that this as the direction being shown to you by the DM, hence, it's the adventure and it's all good? I do know that in the Mike Mearls video, the fact that a dragon was flying overhead was not even much of a consideration. Course to be fair, it did not look like he had experienced players there. Mearls also mentions that the town is engulfed in flame. So much for the town "not really burning" posts. :lol: It might not be burning in the module, but I bet it was at some tables. [/QUOTE]
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