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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shades of Green" data-source="post: 2306170" data-attributes="member: 3297">What about the gods? I say it should depend on the god/religion. Dwarven and Gnomish gods probably would like the new advance (they're generally pro-technology and associated with iron and fire), while some gods of Nature might dislike the idea; think of the Hammerite-Pagan conflict in the <a href="http://www.thief-thecircle.com" target="_blank">Thief</a> computer game.And while guns make some of the lower-level direct-damage offensive spells far less useful, they make other spells EXTREMELY valuable (even the 1st level Mage Armor gives +4 to AC that NOTHING could penetrate, not even guns), and do not effect most other spells. Mage Guilds might actually start to diversify into bodyguarding in such an era!Cost and Performance Comparison:Wand of Magic Missiles (Caster Level 1): 750 GP; holds 50 charges; attacks once per action; always hits; 1d4+1 damage, no save; range 110 ft.Wand of Fireballs (Caster Level 5): 11,250 GP; holds 50 charges; attacks once per action; always hits (unless obstructed); 5d6 damage, reflex save halves; range 600 ft.; effect radius 20 ft.DMG 3.0E - Musket: 500 GP; takes one standard action to reload; standard attack roll to hit; 1d12 damage, crit x3; range increment 150 ft.; 50 bullets  cost 15 GP; a powder horn holds 2 pounds of powder and costs 35 GP but it isn't clear how much powder each shot needs.Fantasy Flight's Sorcery and Steam - Flintlock Musket: 180 GP; takes a full round to reload unless feats/skills are involved (then it could even take a move-equivalent action!); standard attack roll to hit (or the optional ranged touch attack to hit); 2d8 damage, crit x3; range increment 100 ft.; 50 bullets cost 2.5 GP and the powder needed to fire them costs 10 GP.I am currently thinking about adopting the Steam&Sorcery rules with the following modifications: Ranged touch attack unless against an "armor of proof" (magical or just Masterwork?) or the natural armor of certain creatures (DM's discretion); I'll be using mostly Matchlocks; All firearm-related costs are 75% of usual due to early attempts of mass-producing them (I'll be running a Steampunk campaign); load time 3 full rounds, 2 with the Rapid Reload feat OR with a successful Munitions skill check, 1 full round with both Rapid Reload AND a successful Munitions skill check.</blockquote>

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