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Message: <blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 2430209" data-attributes="member: 16285">Alright how about this:Hiding is a made as part of a move action It requires some movement (more complex than a 5 ft step) in order to perform.Attacking while hidden is a surprise action hence a surprise round.  There is no such thing as a surprise action per se.  The limit to the number of attacks a character can make in a surprise round has already been covered (either a standard action or a move action but not a full round action). Since multiple attacks requires a full round action it can’t normally be done in a surprise round.Continuing to hide is still a move action (or part of a movement hence not leaving a full round action to perform the full attack).Now it does allow or seem to anyways that a character can hide while attacking (at a –20 to his check).But regardless the only benefit gained from hiding appears to be the surprise round factor. In order to gain a benefit in combat the character needs to faint (i.e., use Bluff) and that only works on his next attack, and since it is an action to bluff the character can only make 1 attack.  There are however some feats that will allow buff as a free action, but we aren’t talking about that – at least not yet. I haven’t seen anything that indicates a hiding character denies his opponent his dex bonus, which is what is needed in this case to perform the sneak attack.</blockquote>