D&D General I really LOVE Stomping Goblins

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Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
Ok, misread that. I thought you were dissing Looney Tunes. (<-fixed previous things)

But going without the labels, Dr. Doom, Kingpin, and Lex Luthor more nuanced than the chitauri, Carnage, and Doomsday?
I’m not really a comic book girl, so I can’t speak much to the relative nuance of various comic book villains. From an outside perspective, they all pretty much look cartoonishly evil, with varying levels of explanatory backstory and/or internal conflict. Are explanatory backstory and internal conflict nuance? Yeah, I guess, they’re just minor as nuance goes.

It’s also maybe not the best analogy because these are individual characters, whereas goblins are a group. It might be more apropos to ask if, like, the Ten Rings is more nuanced than Hydra.
 

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payn

Legend
I think that we should replace the old alignment system with Myers Briggs Personality Types to really bring nuance to our game.

No, no I don't. Sorry, I'm NG and an ENTJ.
Im "the debater" I seek knowledge not to be able to do things, or even be good at them at all, but just so I can participate in arguments...

Chaotic Neutral?
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
I call him LN because he doesn't care about the welfare of people, so long as the law is followed. However, he's also not in it for his own profit, or specifically to cause harm.
Yeah, true. I call him LG because he acts primarily out of motivation to do good, he just believes that enforcing strict adherence to the law is the way to do that. Just another example of how the 9-alignment system is too limited to adequately describe a well-written and nuanced character.
 

Oofta

Legend
We do have different moral compasses. That doesn’t mean you’re immoral. Your moral framework is just different than mine. There are many different moral frameworks, like deontology, utilitarianism, intuitive morality, etc. One does not have to believe that frameworks they do not ascribe to are immoral.
A moral compass to me is completely separate from preferences for games. What kind of entertainment I enjoy has nothing to do with my personal morality and choices as a DM.

It's just odd that you even mentioned it or that you think you have a clue as to what I think or believe because of how I've chosen to run my game. What gives you the right?
 

payn

Legend
Yeah, true. I call him LG because he acts primarily out of motivation to do good, he just believes that enforcing strict adherence to the law is the way to do that. Just another example of how the 9-alignment system is too limited to adequately describe a well-written and nuanced character.
Seems quite explanatory to me. As noted above (in humor) the alignment system is not a personality system.
 

CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
Yeah, true. I call him LG because he acts primarily out of motivation to do good, he just believes that enforcing strict adherence to the law is the way to do that. Just another example of how the 9-alignment system is too limited to adequately describe a well-written and nuanced character.
And I call him LE because he will cruelly and needlessly hurt others in his pursuit of The Law, even while the citizens he claims to protect are starving to death.
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
I think that we should replace the old alignment system with Myers Briggs Personality Types to really bring nuance to our game.






No, no I don't. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. I'm NG and an ENTJ. Oh, and a gemini.
The D&D YouTuber Taking 20 unironically suggested this once. He legit said “there aren’t 9 just personalities… There are 16!”
 
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Umbran

Mod Squad
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It's just odd that you even mentioned it or that you think you have a clue as to what I think or believe because of how I've chosen to run my game. What gives you the right?

Folks, this is getting intensely personal. I think it is probably time to stop that. Please do so, before one of us has to stop it for you all.
 





MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
Im "the debater" I seek knowledge not to be able to do things, or even be good at them at all, but just so I can participate in arguments...

Chaotic Neutral?
Yes, drawing from the three-type alignment system, it shows a healthy ego fully in control of your Id and Superego.

Hmm...I may be getting my typologies mixed up.
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
And I call him LE because he will cruelly and needlessly hurt others in his pursuit of The Law, even while the citizens he claims to protect are starving to death.
It’s almost like the 9-alignment system is fundamentally broken because one axis is a legitimate dialectic and the other is a moral judgment.
 


MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
It’s almost like the 9-alignment system is fundamentally broken because one axis is a legitimate dialectic and the other is a moral judgment.
Its almost like it is a fun game mechanic that lets you know what to kill and which magic items you can use without getting a headache, rather than trying to simulate actual psychological nuances.
 

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
It is kind of funny. I don't think twice about sniping an enemy in Far Cry, but I feel guilty if I accidentally run over a dog.
:( The closest I've come to running something over was a dove that decided to fly in front of my car. I mean, I was the only thing moving in the neighborhood and all it had to do was fly 6 inches higher...

Thankfully, other than a small cloud of feathers it seemed fine. It didn't even stop flying, so I assume it did okay.
 



Sacrosanct

Legend
Publisher
...But there are 16 Myers-Briggs types.


My partner once joked that Myers-Briggs is just astrology for Student Affairs professionals
When you know the history behind Myers-Briggs, and how it was created, then yeah, it's pretty clear it's not to be taken seriously lol. IIRC, Carl Jung, whose work that is supposed to be based off of, had not-so-good things to say about what they did.
 

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