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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vraille Darkfang" data-source="post: 3468307" data-attributes="member: 16989">I only know 2 people who have used these things.  And neither ended well.1.  The Pomerainian (From my experiences one of the most Viscious of Dog Breeds.  Ineffective in their visciousness, but viscious none the less).My friend moved in a new subdivision (one where they were still busy clearing other lots to put up more houses).  When they moved in, the lot already had the Inviso Fence.  So they'd jsut let the Pomer go wild.  After about a dozen shocks the fence really worked well.  No problems with the Dog running AWAY from the Yard, however there was some issues about other creatures wandering INTO the Yard.One morning he let the Psycho Fluffball out to do its business in the yard.  It torn straight out for the far corner of the lot, Barking & Growling its head off.  My friend looked out, expecting to see a rabbit or squirel.  He saw 6 Small Critters in the Yard.  5 Little Ones & 1 the Size of the Dog.  They all had very unique Black & White Markings.  Seems Momma Skunk was taking all the Baby Skunks on a tour of the neighborhood.  And his little Pomerainian was Charging them down full tilt.He had just enough time to Shout "NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!," Before Woof! Woof! YELP! YELP! YELP!  Momma Skunk stood her ground while the babies ran off.  When the dog was about 3' away.  POW! Right in the Face.  Full Load of Skunk Juice to the Snout & Eyes.  The Pomer was now distressed.  It began to back up, shaking its head, trying to get away from the Stench.  It backed right into the other Border of the Fence.  That Shock did it.Little Guy took off like a Rocket in a random Direction.  Which just so happened to be the Nieghbor's House.  It flew right through the Fence Barrier, never pausing for the Shock.Oh, did I mention this was one of those Subdivisons where EVERY house looks identical?  So, poor, Blind Pomer ran up the steps to the nearest deck & right through the Screen Door.  Which just so happened to be the Retired Couple Next Door.You know what the Negative Modifier to your Diplomacy Check is after having to say "Umm, Excuse me, that's my Skunk Drenched Pomerainian hiding under your bed."?They then put up a Real Fence, more to keep other wildlife out, than keep the dog in.2. The Golden Retriever.Got the Fence.  Dog goes to fence.  Gets Zapped.  Begins to bark & growl & whatever hit him & slowly creeps forward.  Gets Zapped. Begins to bark & growl & whatever hit him & slowly creeps forward.  Gets Zapped. Begins to bark & growl & whatever hit him & slowly creeps forward.  Gets Zapped. Begins to bark & growl & whatever hit him & slowly creeps forward.  Gets Zapped. Begins to bark & growl & whatever hit him & slowly creeps forward.  Gets Zapped. Repeat this for 5 HOURS (when they brought the dog in).  Repeat this process daily for 3 weeks.  Really.  Once the dog went out, it'd run right to the Fence, get Zapped & begin to bark at whatever Zapped him Until he got Zapped Again.  Most of his Neighbors were dog people, so they understood, they were training the Retriever.  But, after a Marathon 8 HOUR session 1 Saturday, they told him "Umm, either Muzzle that Dog or we will".In a not so rare moment of brilliant stupidity, my friend bought the Dog one of those Shock Collars that Zaps them when they Bark.  Beacuse if the Dog couldn't figure out how not to get Zapped by a Stationary Line, One that Follows him around should now be no Problem.I think the dog darn near electrocuted himself.  It would run up to the Fence, get zapped, begn to bark, get zapped AGAIN, turn in a circle trying to figure out what zapped him, barking the entire time, kinda.  Bark. ZAP! YELP!  Bark. ZAP! YELP!  He'd turn in circles looking for his invisible attacker until he got close to the Fence & Got Zapped.  Then he'd begin to turn in Circles the Other way until he wandered into the Fence & Got Zapped.After 30 Straight Minutes, my Friend brought the Dog inside.  It was still ticked off at whoever has Zapping him.The Dog was too Stupid & Stubborn for the Fence to Work.  They had to go with the Chain on a Stick.I'm guessing the effectiviness is more based on the Dog than the Fence.  A well Trained Dog will probablly work just fine.  An Unruly or Wild one might just blast right through it.</blockquote>

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