D&D General Is Appendix N Still Relevant to D&D?

A D&D fuelled explosion in fantasy literature in the 80s. When Appendix N was written most of that stuff didn’t exist.

I love D&D but it wasn't the primary driver behind the explosion of fantasy novels in the 80s. It probably contributed a bit, but I'd guess it was more a beneficiary of how much fantasy started to be published.

The main thing that kicked off a big uptick in the number of fantasy books being published was Lester and Judy-Lynn del Ray founding a new publishing company, Del Ray Books, in 1977. The first book they decided to publish was The Sword of Shannara, which was a big hit. That lead to them looking to publish more books in the same vein, competitors looking to copy their success, etc.
 

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I love D&D but it wasn't the primary driver behind the explosion of fantasy novels in the 80s. It probably contributed a bit, but I'd guess it was more a beneficiary of how much fantasy started to be published.
I know people want to say the Dragonlance books were important but in my experience people outside of the RPG hobby goes "Who? What books? Never heard of it." And this is people involved in publishing and translating fantasy books.

You can make a better claim that D&D has affected and pushed the importance of fantasy art.
 

Its relevant but nowhere near as much as it used to be, other than some of it being foundational. But anime, video games, more recent fantasy materials probably drive most younger players view on what D&D "should" be rather than Fafhrd and Grey Mouser. Probably why I find most of the recent editions not to be my thing and play older variations on the game. Though you can play a game based on those materials with 5e, but I don't care for that either. Thankfully there are so many options these days. More B/X clones than you can shake a stick at.
 

I know people want to say the Dragonlance books were important but in my experience people outside of the RPG hobby goes "Who? What books? Never heard of it." And this is people involved in publishing and translating fantasy books.
That sounds questionable. The Dragonlance Chronicles alone have sold over 10 million copies.
 

The Appendix N anthology would be a fantastic basis for an OSR blog or maybe series of PDF releases, making something OSR actionable from each story.
Of course Bebergal's anthology has been written about on various OSR blogs and talked about on OSR youtube.

But you're thinking more using the stories in it as inspirational prompts for publishing game content? Magic items and adventures and such? Raid the stories for more stuff which D&D hasn't already used?

This is not to be understated: it wasn't long into D&D's lifespan where you weren't going to be see most of Appendix N on shelves much. Moorcock was still pretty visible. and to some extent Howard was an everygreen, but that was about it.
To some extent, though most of them were easily found in used bookstores. Included authors who wouldn't be pretty easily and cheaply found that way are a pretty small percentage of the list, even though some of them were definitely out of print.

Anderson, Brown, Burroughs, Carter, de Camp, Derleth, Dunsany, Howard, Leiber, Lovecraft, Moorcock, Norton, Saberhagen, Tolkien, Vance, and Zelazny were all easily accessible to me as a teenager in the late 80s and into the 90s, and I still have a lot of the copies I found then.

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This is a perfect example of what we were just discussing. 1969, the last year of that decade, know what was the most popular song (according to billboard top 100)? Surly something by the Beatles, right? Or Stones? Maybe Marvin Gaye? The Supremes & The Temptations? Nope, it was a fictional novelty band's song about how a woman is like candy (following the fictional group's previous 'hits' "Bang-Shang-A-Lang" and "Feelin' So Good (S.K.O.O.B.Y.-D.O.O.)"). So again, nostalgia a curated list, everything else memory-holed.
Yup. The illusion of older music being better is a product of the best stuff being what gets remembered, and the 90% that's crap (tip of the hat to Sturgeon) is forgotten.


I love D&D but it wasn't the primary driver behind the explosion of fantasy novels in the 80s. It probably contributed a bit, but I'd guess it was more a beneficiary of how much fantasy started to be published.

The main thing that kicked off a big uptick in the number of fantasy books being published was Lester and Judy-Lynn del Ray founding a new publishing company, Del Ray Books, in 1977. The first book they decided to publish was The Sword of Shannara, which was a big hit. That lead to them looking to publish more books in the same vein, competitors looking to copy their success, etc.
Was going to bring this up. Remember that Sword of Shannara was explicitly written to a formula they came up with, and targeted at Tolkien readers who wanted more like it. The Del Reys helped launch that and define Fantasy as a category which would be thought of as its own thing and no longer a combo with SF.

I would say it happened in the 60s, but not produced until 70s. The Hippies were fond on the halfling leaf, as are many today.
LotR strongly implies right in the front that it's tobacco, and no sort of intoxication is associated with it in the books. Though "weed" jokes no doubt started with the hippies and that's where Peter Jackson and his co-writers got the idea.

JRR Tolkien, The Followship of the Rings:

"There is another astonishing thing about Hobbits of old that must be mentioned, an astonishing habit: they imbibed or inhaled, through pipes of clay or wood, the smoke of the burning leaves of a herb, which they called pipe-weed or leaf, a variety probably of Nicotiana."
 
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But you're thinking more using the stories in it as inspirational prompts for publishing game content? Magic items and adventures and such? Raid the stories for more stuff which D&D hasn't already used?
Yeah, precisely.

Take a simple Dyson Logos map of a ruined castle or temple and use it to create a site-based encounter off of "Thieves in the Forest." Write up the monsters in "The Tale of Hauk" or "Empire of the Necromancers," or the magic swords from "The Song of Swords," although I gather each sword is detailed more in the novels that's from. And so on.
 

Yup. The illusion of older music being better is a product of the best stuff being what gets remembered, and the 90% that's crap (tip of the hat to Sturgeon) is forgotten.
And also the aggressive mono-culture we grew up with, of Baby Boomers yelling that the stuff they listened to in high school was the last good music. This is a brain structure thing a lot of people believe, but when the largest demographic group has more or less agreed when all the "best" music was, it makes it seem like a critical consensus, and not just a product of everyone graduating in the same 10 year period more or less.

(Not music, but good lord, I will be happy to never have someone ever tell me again that Easy Rider is one of the best movies ever made, simply because someone saw it when they were 19 and imprinted hard on it.)
 

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