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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 8346642" data-attributes="member: 18182">We're dealing with Schrodinger's deities here, Tiamat is simultaneously a unique being compared to Takhisis, and at the same time they are aspects of the same cosmic being. Quantum states, so to speak. Everybody is right, everybody is wrong.I'm interested to see how Fizban's explains things, but I'm really liking the idea that dragons have "echoes" on different worlds throughout the multiverse. Or, "variants" in MCU terminology. Perhaps Tiamat/Takhisis existed as a wholly unfractured being in the First World, but when that world shattered into the multiverse, Tiamat and Takhisis became echoes of one another. With additional echoes on Exandria, Eberron, and other material worlds. Some of these echoes ascended into godhood at various levels (lesser, greater), others are simply big, multi-headed dragons. Some of these echoes exist on the outer planes, in Baator, the Abyss, and other places. Each Tiamat is aware of the others, and probably considers herself the "prime" dragon, the others all lesser copies to eventually be subsumed into her being.The argument here I find somewhat silly, or at least, I find it silly how passionate some folks are getting on the subject. The fictional metaphysics of it I find interesting. If you are playing a Dragonlance campaign . . . it likely shouldn't matter what the relationship is between Tiamat and Takhisis. If you're playing a Planescape campaign, it might. If you prefer to think of the Queen of Evil Dragons as separate, unrelated beings . . . or aspects/echoes of the same being . . . it makes no practical difference at the table.</blockquote>

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