Kickstarter dumpster fire?

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Worst managed Kickstarter in history? In this Kickstarter, things go from bad to worse. The creator has not only threatened to kill people in the comments section, he’s now spamming it with his own self-written biography to drown out negative commentary.


So far he has about 30 backers, all at $1, just backing to be able to make comments.

(please keep politics out of this despite the game’s topic)
 

Imaculata

Adventurer
It is almost like some sort of social experiment. :D

Also, it looks like the board was created in Excel. He even accidentally dragged some images outside the border of the table.
 
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Dioltach

Adventurer
The game itself seems to offer nothing really new. Just a roll-and-move "social commentary" Monopoly clone. I remember playing one called "Let's Buy Britain" back in the 1980s, which someone had made in response to privatisation. At the time it was interesting and funny. Now it's a lazy concept.

Now if it was based on War of the Ring ...
 

Dannyalcatraz

Moderator
Staff member
There’s no question as to his political slant, either.

And did anyone notice how many times he posted his fraudulent bio? Begs the question...
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Jadeite

Explorer
It's wrong to make fun of handicapped people. This guy needs medical help. The time and energy should be spent calling out succesful scams (rebranded Ali Baba stuff, etc). There's no chance of people falling for this, so it would be wiser to just ignore him. He seems quite unhinged, so pushing him might end in tragedy.
 

Dannyalcatraz

Moderator
Staff member
It's wrong to make fun of handicapped people. This guy needs medical help. The time and energy should be spent calling out succesful scams (rebranded Ali Baba stuff, etc). There's no chance of people falling for this, so it would be wiser to just ignore him. He seems quite unhinged, so pushing him might end in tragedy.
It’s the Internet. Just like nature, “red in tooth and claw”, the Internet is full of predators and scavengers. I suspect that the “supporters” will continue to feast on that Kickstarter like corvids at a battlefield.
 

ccs

39th lv DM
The project itself might be all kinds of fail, but I don't think that the concept of a game mocking our current politics (either/any side) is the worst idea.

A timely project done right might sell.....
 

Blue

Orcus on a bad hair day
Here we have an experiment testing the hypothesis: There's no such thing as bad publicity.

Considering it made me click on a kickstarter I never would have heard about otherwise, I guess it works.

Actually donating, on the other hand...not so much.
 

pogre

Adventurer
The creator has a long history of unusual activity:
He allegedly created a shadow company that sold bitcoin mining hardware that used Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking. He apparently did not deliver to several customers - bilking them out of thousands of dollars.

He allegedly tried to sell a revision of Bobby Fischer's famous chess book that he wrote. He is quite infamous in chess circles and something of a joke.

He even has a Snopes article on him from a story he concocted about his actions to get a standardized test changed by complaining to a local school principal - something you cannot do.

He made all sorts of claims about developing AI programs that have been routinely dismissed by experts in the field.

In short, the guy is a human meltdown and his behavior in this Kickstarter is not a cry for help - it is who he is.

I recognized his name from chess circles, and thought 'nah, that cannot be the same guy' - yep, it is.
 
The creator has a long history of unusual activity:
He allegedly created a shadow company that sold bitcoin mining hardware that used Liquid Nitrogen Overclocking. He apparently did not deliver to several customers - bilking them out of thousands of dollars.

He allegedly tried to sell a revision of Bobby Fischer's famous chess book that he wrote. He is quite infamous in chess circles and something of a joke.

He even has a Snopes article on him from a story he concocted about his actions to get a standardized test changed by complaining to a local school principal - something you cannot do.

He made all sorts of claims about developing AI programs that have been routinely dismissed by experts in the field.

In short, the guy is a human meltdown and his behavior in this Kickstarter is not a cry for help - it is who he is.

I recognized his name from chess circles, and thought 'nah, that cannot be the same guy' - yep, it is.
is this guy some kind of alternate universe version of forest gump where instead of his movie timeline hes a con man with a long track list? Because thats what popped into my brain when i read your post. That and him not owning a company called the bubbagump shrimp company but instead one called the tomogump shrimp factory and going on a long list of the ways you can use shrimp in combinations with drugs like cocaine. What a weird con man.
 

Dioltach

Adventurer
"Cancelled by the project creator." 35 backers, 30 dollars raised, and most of them seemed to have pledged a dollar just to post a comment. Well, I suppose that's one way to research the market.
 

LuisCarlos17f

Adventurer
I think I can say this:

If you really want to convince other people about your point of view in some matter, respect and don't offend. This is not only for the good manners, but rudeness is a bad strategy. You need diplomacy and social skills to get and keep their trust and attention, or they will not listen you any more. Don't try to talk as if you were the sergeant Tom Highway (played by Clint Eastwood in Heartbreak Ridge) fussing Gomer Pyle (from the movie Full Metal Jacket). If you are an unknown person then you haven't got authority to admonish.

I read in a book about how to convince is never be contrary.

If in a debate somebody start to humiliate and trample then he has lost. Who really knows more thing tries to share her knowledge (sometimes looking like smarty repellent), not a strategy of psychologically mistreat against the discrepant.

Please, don't behave like toxic people, and be fast to recognize these when they start to talk and say horrible things about others.

If you want to help for the end of racism, machism ( = male chauvinism) or homophobia you have to defend the respect of the human dignity, the base of our rights. Without this the former oppressed may become a ne oppressor. Promote this values: good sense (against prejudices), trust (against fear), mercy (against hate), humility (against pride) , patiente (against resentment), understanding (empathy, to notice about the point of view by the rest). Don't trust who appeals to feelings (fear, pride, wish, resentment, shame and envy) because he is a manipulator. The saying "listen your heart" is cool in the fiction but in the real life you have to use your brain.

And we have to make an important difference between the right satire and the toxic humor. This can be really dangerous because people "from the wrong side" lose dignity and then later is easier from teasing and psychological abuse to physical violence.

Nietzsche said: "Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster". This happen when the rebels against the authority forget the respect of the human dignity and then as when madam Roland, before being executed by the guillotine (for the French Terror), said "OH LIBERTY, HOW MANY CRIMES IN YOUR NAME!"

(Sorry if anytime I didn't find the right word but English isn't my native language).
 

Rob Kuntz

Adventurer
Worst managed Kickstarter in history? In this Kickstarter, things go from bad to worse. The creator has not only threatened to kill people in the comments section, he’s now spamming it with his own self-written biography to drown out negative commentary.


So far he has about 30 backers, all at $1, just backing to be able to make comments.

(please keep politics out of this despite the game’s topic)
Well, Morrus, you said it all. Really no need to click the link.
 

Zardnaar

Hero
My Kickstarter is an inflatable dartboard with a giant orange turnip on it.

$1 Thanks for your donation
$5 can't promise anything
$10 I'll try (maybe)
$20 photo of my cat (if I can be bothered)
 

Rob Kuntz

Adventurer
My Kickstarter is an inflatable dartboard with a giant orange turnip on it.

$1 Thanks for your donation
$5 can't promise anything
$10 I'll try (maybe)
$20 photo of my cat (if I can be bothered)
I sense just a WEE BIT of cynicism here.... ;)
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Seperately: there is no one of which it is inherently wrong to make fun.
Making fun of someone for something that is not under their own control is cruel. Being willfully cruel is... not generally considered morally upstanding in most of the cultures on the planet today.

Making fun of someone for saying something boneheaded may be acceptable. Making fun of that same person for having a neurological condition that gives them tremors and make them stagger when they walk is not acceptable.

The person may not be inviolate overall, but there are manners of mockery that are wrong.
 

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