Ryujin
Legend
I think that the presence of the ring says that's not the case.
Spoilers Lanterns season 1 spoilers discussion
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damiller
Hero
i think the ring is a horcrux. but for good guys. But i am holding this lightly. Its just what my gut says.
Kaodi
Legend
I think whatever is going on with Sinestro is certainly related back to Hal and his dad and grandfather. Maybe he was giving himself another chance to save Sinestro from himself because he could not save his dad from himself.
As for the ring: Hal made a big point about how John could hold onto a projection even when he was not wearing the ring; that that was something no other Lantern could do. Maybe Hal, or more specifically, Hal-o-gram, also has one last thing that only he can do. I mean this is probably wrong but I will hold out hope until next week that it is right: that when the chips are down and the ring is out of juice and Hal-o-gram is fading away while "the threat" looms that that is when he says the oath like we heard it in the trailer: "In brightest day, in blackest night, No evil shall escape my sight. Let those who worship evil's might, Beware my power - Green Lantern's light!" and something about Hal being Hal and Hal-o-gram being a creature of the ring allows it to connect directly to the Central Battery and recharge while Hal fades away for the last time leaving John with a fully powered ring.
As for the ring: Hal made a big point about how John could hold onto a projection even when he was not wearing the ring; that that was something no other Lantern could do. Maybe Hal, or more specifically, Hal-o-gram, also has one last thing that only he can do. I mean this is probably wrong but I will hold out hope until next week that it is right: that when the chips are down and the ring is out of juice and Hal-o-gram is fading away while "the threat" looms that that is when he says the oath like we heard it in the trailer: "In brightest day, in blackest night, No evil shall escape my sight. Let those who worship evil's might, Beware my power - Green Lantern's light!" and something about Hal being Hal and Hal-o-gram being a creature of the ring allows it to connect directly to the Central Battery and recharge while Hal fades away for the last time leaving John with a fully powered ring.
It would be poetic that with Halogram in the ring, if the Ring chose John....it would also be like Hal finally choosing John as well.
Ryujin
Legend
Even if Hal doesn't somehow come back, now Halogram can actually teach John how to use the ring, instead of holding back that knowledge.
AnotherGuy
Hero
Besides my MANY issues with the show and its writers - these are my ideas
Long ramble ahead
Lianna, the Guardian, is behind Sinestro's escape.
She is a rogue Guardian either affected by the death (via Parallax) of the Guardian's whose name we do not know (suspect Ganthet or the mad Guardian Appa Ali Apsa). Hence she was manipulating John through fear to take Hal's ring.
In 2016 Hal stopped updating his ring when he became upset with the Guardians, blaming them for something (death of Ganthet or more likely the destruction of the aliens' home etc)
He knew of Abin Sur's crash with the Manhunter in the area, hence leaving that message for himself and thus immediately suspected the deaths related to aliens.
When he heard of the recording between Lianna and John by Hector "Hammond" he suspected he was fully compromised by the Guardian/s.
Lianna informed Sinestro of John Stewart that is why Sinestro was so well informed.
When Sinestro told Hal John was his 2nd most dangerous enemy, he mean Lianna was his first - the misdirect was that it was the Manhunter or Sinestro himself.
The Manhunters used fear gas to destroy the aliens' homeworld...where did they get this from (and why)? Sinestro or Lianna.
Was this a testing ground for the yellow power or Parallax? The ground is eerily yellow, perhaps the after effects of the gas?
Hal would have suspected that the involvement of Lianna or Sinestro in the above to set up the teleportation circle to the alien world.
John being able to keep his bird in existence long after a ring is depleted means he will be able to keep ring-Hal after the ring energy cuts out. Even though its not technically his creation like the bird per se.
Lianna would see Hal as a threat if she is working with Sinestro.
It would also mean she was acting when she did not understand the father-son relationship between Sinestro-Hal. I mean why would she be angry at that if she was working with Sinestro (i.e. Sinestro could still manipulate Hal)? Would it really be better if Hal hated Sinestro outright from her POV?.
But this is very unlikely, I can't imagine them using their own identity obsession for a misdirect. Maybe this is just another inconsistency. But in the possibility that it is true, the Guardian's supposed care for PTSD failed applicants would also be another lie. You'd expect Guardian to be more enlightened and be able to bs lesser beings.
If Hal is not dead - where would he be? Does he have another ring?
Noah being a hybrid and the sheriff knowing and shooting Hal (because he discovered the secret) to protect her son is also a strong possibility. Weird though then for the sheriff to call John after. Stronger case for Noah killing him then.
I just find it weird to have Lianna being the one to kill Hal now (after 10 years) if she sprung Sinestro unless she recently discovered the portal and thought Hal would be disrupting her plans. Anyways...we will know soon enough.
Long ramble ahead
Lianna, the Guardian, is behind Sinestro's escape.
She is a rogue Guardian either affected by the death (via Parallax) of the Guardian's whose name we do not know (suspect Ganthet or the mad Guardian Appa Ali Apsa). Hence she was manipulating John through fear to take Hal's ring.
In 2016 Hal stopped updating his ring when he became upset with the Guardians, blaming them for something (death of Ganthet or more likely the destruction of the aliens' home etc)
He knew of Abin Sur's crash with the Manhunter in the area, hence leaving that message for himself and thus immediately suspected the deaths related to aliens.
When he heard of the recording between Lianna and John by Hector "Hammond" he suspected he was fully compromised by the Guardian/s.
Lianna informed Sinestro of John Stewart that is why Sinestro was so well informed.
When Sinestro told Hal John was his 2nd most dangerous enemy, he mean Lianna was his first - the misdirect was that it was the Manhunter or Sinestro himself.
The Manhunters used fear gas to destroy the aliens' homeworld...where did they get this from (and why)? Sinestro or Lianna.
Was this a testing ground for the yellow power or Parallax? The ground is eerily yellow, perhaps the after effects of the gas?
Hal would have suspected that the involvement of Lianna or Sinestro in the above to set up the teleportation circle to the alien world.
John being able to keep his bird in existence long after a ring is depleted means he will be able to keep ring-Hal after the ring energy cuts out. Even though its not technically his creation like the bird per se.
Lianna would see Hal as a threat if she is working with Sinestro.
It would also mean she was acting when she did not understand the father-son relationship between Sinestro-Hal. I mean why would she be angry at that if she was working with Sinestro (i.e. Sinestro could still manipulate Hal)? Would it really be better if Hal hated Sinestro outright from her POV?.
But this is very unlikely, I can't imagine them using their own identity obsession for a misdirect. Maybe this is just another inconsistency. But in the possibility that it is true, the Guardian's supposed care for PTSD failed applicants would also be another lie. You'd expect Guardian to be more enlightened and be able to bs lesser beings.
If Hal is not dead - where would he be? Does he have another ring?
Noah being a hybrid and the sheriff knowing and shooting Hal (because he discovered the secret) to protect her son is also a strong possibility. Weird though then for the sheriff to call John after. Stronger case for Noah killing him then.
I just find it weird to have Lianna being the one to kill Hal now (after 10 years) if she sprung Sinestro unless she recently discovered the portal and thought Hal would be disrupting her plans. Anyways...we will know soon enough.
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trappedslider
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Hopefully they use this moment from the comics in the last episode to make it clear that hal is a dick
Kaodi
Legend
There are a lot of really good things about this episode but I still managed to be kind of disappointed by the ending. I made my Dad stay awake for this, and I could have let him go to bed when he wanted to instead! The ending was not good enough to justify keeping him up just so that I could come here immediately and talk about.
payn
Glory to Marik
Was....eh. They left a lot on the table, but could have been a lot worse. I figured it was either Noah, because of his programming that killed Hal, or it was Kerry to protect Noah. A lot of fast forward telling and not much showing. Sinestro prison break, Hal just tails a manhunter, guardians just doing guardians stuff off camera. Guy is...a chump? Sees this unsanctioned ring and lantern and... does nothing about it? All rather convenient, in the name of not doing too much in the finale.
At least I really like the cast and look forward to seeing more John (Pierre) and Sinestro (Thomsen). Hopefully Hal (Chandler) too. I think a future Lanterns story not using the True Detective formula is going to be a lot better. On its own, the TD format is difficult to do. Using the format in a Supers story is ever more difficult.
At least I really like the cast and look forward to seeing more John (Pierre) and Sinestro (Thomsen). Hopefully Hal (Chandler) too. I think a future Lanterns story not using the True Detective formula is going to be a lot better. On its own, the TD format is difficult to do. Using the format in a Supers story is ever more difficult.
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