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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vrecknidj" data-source="post: 1860595" data-attributes="member: 7301">Which, if any, of these "parts" are in themselves magical?For instance, the body is clearly a physical thing.  It's affected by physical forces, like gravity.  A soul, however (or mind, or spirit, or pick your favorite thing that can be described as non-physical) isn't physical, and so shouldn't be subject to physical forces.So, with the earth rotating at 1000mph, and traveling around the sun at 60,000mph, why does a spirit (or any other incorporeal thing) stay "with" the earth.  I know why physical bodies stay with the earth, I get Newtonian physics.  But why would an incorporeal "object" do so?  If, in D&D, we used the answer "magic" (whether divine or arcane), I'd be satisfied.  But, does this mean the incorporeal thing itself (including, in this case, a person's soul) is itself magical?  Or just that there are magical forces that affect it, and that those forces somehow duplicate the physical forces that keep the physical body tied to the planet?The whole idea that the soul and body are different and separable things has a varied history.  Until Descartes, the question hadn't really gone through such a deep analysis (for anyone interested, I suggest his Meditations, you could Google it and get public domain copies of the work--both html and text).His ideas could be helpful in anyone trying to build a framework for a D&D model.  (If you're really in for a treat, read Spinoza's work, just consider the title of one of his essays: The Mind as the Idea of the Body.)Dave</blockquote>

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