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<blockquote data-quote="Leopold" data-source="post: 1064599" data-attributes="member: 758"><p>Initial thoughts are thus:</p><p></p><p>Unbalanced stats:1</p><p>Natural Armor:1</p><p>Flight (good):2</p><p>Astral Jaunt/Travel (?) and abilities:1</p><p></p><p>Now that's a LA of 5 for a total ECL of 9.</p><p></p><p>Acid Test:</p><p>Now it's got the HD of D8 and good saves that would be on par with a cleric and not ranger. Now we take A Cl 1/berbalang against a 9th level cleric.</p><p></p><p>HD: Cleric wins with 9D8</p><p>Saves:Cleric wins</p><p>BAB: Cleric gets slightly better but berbalang has higher 2nd attack. Tie</p><p></p><p>Now if we fought a 9th level cleric against a 1st Cleric Berbalang. Cleric on avg has 36 while a berbalang has 26 (avg of HD for cleric and level of cleric). Cleric has 4 feats compared to the berbalangs 2 feats. Avg equipment a Cleric has would give more than likely a better to hit and better AC 9again fighting cleric here) so it would sway toward the cleric on that jaunt. cleric would hit more on the lower AC of the berbalang rather than the other way around (figure cleric would have Avg dex and wear at least +1 Chain mail ). </p><p></p><p>End result: Cleric wins</p><p></p><p>Ok let's drop it down one notch to ECL 8. Hit points drop for teh Cleric to 32, saves drop slghtly still in it's favor. Now it's a lil trickier as both have decent hit points, AC is slightly in the clerics favor, saves are on still in the clerics favor, feat drops by one for the cleric, but the combat can go either way here. Depends on who get initiative first and what each one does.</p><p></p><p>End result:Tie</p><p></p><p>Acid test equates the LA to be a 4 as the astral jaunt matters little in true combat and it's got downfalls. Pros are improved stats, some natural armor and it's flight abilitiey which is a big bonus.</p><p></p><p>LA=4</p><p>ECL=8</p><p></p><p></p><p>Questions, comments, concerns?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leopold, post: 1064599, member: 758"] Initial thoughts are thus: Unbalanced stats:1 Natural Armor:1 Flight (good):2 Astral Jaunt/Travel (?) and abilities:1 Now that's a LA of 5 for a total ECL of 9. Acid Test: Now it's got the HD of D8 and good saves that would be on par with a cleric and not ranger. Now we take A Cl 1/berbalang against a 9th level cleric. HD: Cleric wins with 9D8 Saves:Cleric wins BAB: Cleric gets slightly better but berbalang has higher 2nd attack. Tie Now if we fought a 9th level cleric against a 1st Cleric Berbalang. Cleric on avg has 36 while a berbalang has 26 (avg of HD for cleric and level of cleric). Cleric has 4 feats compared to the berbalangs 2 feats. Avg equipment a Cleric has would give more than likely a better to hit and better AC 9again fighting cleric here) so it would sway toward the cleric on that jaunt. cleric would hit more on the lower AC of the berbalang rather than the other way around (figure cleric would have Avg dex and wear at least +1 Chain mail ). End result: Cleric wins Ok let's drop it down one notch to ECL 8. Hit points drop for teh Cleric to 32, saves drop slghtly still in it's favor. Now it's a lil trickier as both have decent hit points, AC is slightly in the clerics favor, saves are on still in the clerics favor, feat drops by one for the cleric, but the combat can go either way here. Depends on who get initiative first and what each one does. End result:Tie Acid test equates the LA to be a 4 as the astral jaunt matters little in true combat and it's got downfalls. Pros are improved stats, some natural armor and it's flight abilitiey which is a big bonus. LA=4 ECL=8 Questions, comments, concerns? [/QUOTE]
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