Bagpuss
Legend
What are the rules on applying templates?
I only ask as it seems odd to me that the Magical Construct template from Book of Eldrich Might, modifies the creature with Str +10, Dex -4, Con -, Int -, Wis -2, Cha -10. In the example creature initiative, AC, hit points and saves are all effected, but attack modifier and damage remain the same.
It does say they should remain the same as the base creature, but it seems the increase in Str is totally wasted in that case.
For example the "Brass Eleven headed hydra" detailed in the book gains the following.
AC: +10 points
SA : a pretty poor Breath Weapon
Str: +10 but no benifits from it.
Benifits of being a Construct, ie: No critcals, blindsight 60ft, etc.
In return it loses
Attributes: Con - (from 20), Dex -4, Int - (from 3), Wis -2, and Cha reduce to 1.
Hit points: -55 due to no consitution modifer
Initiative: -2 due to loss of dex
Speed: -5 foot of each type
Saves: Fort -5 point no consitution modifer
Ref -2 points reduced Dexterity
Will -1 point reduced Wisdom
Skills: All lost so that no Listen +8 or Spot +9
Feats: All lost so no Combat Reflexes which considering its reach was one of its most useful features.
This all gives it a +3 to its Challenge Rating.
Seems to me that without the increase in Attack modifer and damage from the increased strength that actually this works out more like -2 to its Challenge Rating.
Is this a mistake not giving the benifits for increased Str?
I only ask as it seems odd to me that the Magical Construct template from Book of Eldrich Might, modifies the creature with Str +10, Dex -4, Con -, Int -, Wis -2, Cha -10. In the example creature initiative, AC, hit points and saves are all effected, but attack modifier and damage remain the same.
It does say they should remain the same as the base creature, but it seems the increase in Str is totally wasted in that case.
For example the "Brass Eleven headed hydra" detailed in the book gains the following.
AC: +10 points
SA : a pretty poor Breath Weapon
Str: +10 but no benifits from it.
Benifits of being a Construct, ie: No critcals, blindsight 60ft, etc.
In return it loses
Attributes: Con - (from 20), Dex -4, Int - (from 3), Wis -2, and Cha reduce to 1.
Hit points: -55 due to no consitution modifer
Initiative: -2 due to loss of dex
Speed: -5 foot of each type
Saves: Fort -5 point no consitution modifer
Ref -2 points reduced Dexterity
Will -1 point reduced Wisdom
Skills: All lost so that no Listen +8 or Spot +9
Feats: All lost so no Combat Reflexes which considering its reach was one of its most useful features.
This all gives it a +3 to its Challenge Rating.
Seems to me that without the increase in Attack modifer and damage from the increased strength that actually this works out more like -2 to its Challenge Rating.
Is this a mistake not giving the benifits for increased Str?
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