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Marvel Studios' Captain Marvel | Special Look

Tonguez

Adventurer
Are "special looks" what they're calling "trailers" now? :)
yeah, apparently its not the 'real' trailer - which pundits are predicting will be released for Superbowl

the rise of the trailer industry as a phenomena in itself would make for an interesting study, they've become predictable 'events' that compete for space in a crowded attention market, especially with the various studios are churning out multiple big budget movies each year

it might just be an American thing but the Hollywood hype machine means that trailers arent just trailers anymore
 

Legatus_Legionis

< BLAH HA Ha ha >
I recall in the days before youtube, when a trailer for a film was only done before a movie, and the number of times people left the theater AFTER the trailer... they had no intention of watching the film the trailer was before. Just the trailer.

This helped inflate the ticket sales for a movie.

Forward to today, and the desire to see trailers is exponentially greater.

Trailers made just for events like Comicon, Superbowl, etc. has grown.

There is now a whole sub-culture of watching trailers and breaking it all down.

There is now a whole sub-culture of where news media the day after events like the Superbowl will showcase JUST the commercials. Not the game, the commercials!

This is BIG business and the PR it generates is huge.

Sadly, this forcing us to "like" a character I find disgusting. The fact Marvel Comics can't keep her series ongoing because no one wants to buy/read her comics must tell you something.

And this whole "let's give her cosmic level powers" with a cardboard personality almost makes me rooting for the better developed "bad guys" in such a situation.

And this movie/character is rumored to be the race of the post Infinite War MCU... is not reassuring. (Can anyone say BvS and Justice League and what they were supposed to be for the DCEU).
 

trappedslider

Explorer
I recall in the days before youtube, when a trailer for a film was only done before a movie, and the number of times people left the theater AFTER the trailer... they had no intention of watching the film the trailer was before. Just the trailer.
I remember when the movie "Robots" came out with a trailer attached for SW: RotS
And this whole "let's give her cosmic level powers" with a cardboard personality almost makes me rooting for the better developed "bad guys" in such a situation.

And this movie/character is rumored to be the race of the post Infinite War MCU... is not reassuring. (Can anyone say BvS and Justice League and what they were supposed to be for the DCEU).
I'm guessing you don't know much if anything about her from the comics...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Danvers#Powers_and_abilities

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Carol_Danvers_(Earth-616)

Iwould love to find out where you are reading all of the "rumors" you post....
 

Ovinomancer

Explorer
I recall in the days before youtube, when a trailer for a film was only done before a movie, and the number of times people left the theater AFTER the trailer... they had no intention of watching the film the trailer was before. Just the trailer.

This helped inflate the ticket sales for a movie.
I worked in a major theater chain after high school for more than a year, and I don't recall this ever happening once. This seems apocryphal.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
The fact Marvel Comics can't keep her series ongoing because no one wants to buy/read her comics must tell you something.
Yes, but probably not what you think.

The decisions to keep a comic in print are generally made on the basis of single-issue sales month over month. And there, it seems that comics led by female or minority characters don't do terribly well.

However, diversity leads top the sales of trade paperback formats. Basically, the folks who read diversity titles want to read an entire story at once, not have it dribbled out over months. It is a case of executives in the business not keeping up with the reading patterns among various demographics.

https://screenrant.com/marvel-diversity-comic-sales-single-issue/

And this whole "let's give her cosmic level powers" with a cardboard personality
She has always been powerful - up to and including channeling the power out of the core of a star. And... if you are judging character personality off of a trailer... well, that's your problem.
 

doctorbadwolf

Explorer
Also, the movies looks like it's gonna be a lot of fun!

I love Danvers, so I was stoked for this from the first announcement, and now I'm even more stoked.

I really hope we get a quick easter egg shot of Kamala Khan being inspired by/fan-girling over Captain Marvel
 

Derren

Villager
Well the movie is out and while I found it entertaining its in my opinion rather far from being the best Marvel movie.

While most (but not all) gags were good many of the "though one liners" felt misplaced to me. And while the movie does start rather strong in my opinion it loses a lot in the last third where imo there is no real suspense when the bad guys are crossed off one after another.
And they could have used a bit smaller hammer to get the message of never giving up across. That was anything but subtle.
 

jonesy

Hero
It feels like a Phase 1 movie, which it should have been. What I mean is, it would have worked better if they'd introduced her through this movie much earlier. The movie itself is alright. Not stellar, but not bad in any way either.

It's got an ok rating on both metacritic and imdb, which leads me to believe that the Rotten Tomatoes audience rating is just being weird at the moment (the critic rating is fine).
 

Derren

Villager
It feels like a Phase 1 movie, which it should have been. What I mean is, it would have worked better if they'd introduced her through this movie much earlier. The movie itself is alright. Not stellar, but not bad in any way either.

It's got an ok rating on both metacritic and imdb, which leads me to believe that the Rotten Tomatoes audience rating is just being weird at the moment (the critic rating is fine).
No idea about RT, I usually don't check those sites, but I don't think you will get a fair rating about this movie anywhere any time soon as it will certainly be a hotly discussed topic on various feminist and anti-feminist media because of the cast (not only the main one but also the makeup of the secondary cast) with them claiming this movie to be a revelation for feminism (with the danger of sliding into the "everyone who does not like it is a misogynist" territory like what happened with Ghost Busters) while the other side will decry it a feminist propaganda and will universally hate it. The ratings that are about the movie itself will be drowned out for a while until this "discussion" dies down.

Imo, watch it if you like the other marvel superhero movies. If not, don't.

PS: I really liked what they did for Stan Lee in the beginning.
Does someone know if the cameo was shot before his death or if it was a double?
 
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jonesy

Hero
PS: I really liked what they did for Stan Lee in the beginning.
Does someone know if the cameo was shot before his death or if it was a double?
They shot that before his death, but it was slightly altered for the movie to be a bit more touching instead of just a straight comedy shot.
 

Derren

Villager
They shot that before his death, but it was slightly altered for the movie to be a bit more touching instead of just a straight comedy shot.
That makes me wonder if they also have one in Endgame. Otherwise I am not sure how to put Lee into the movie. It would be weird to have the big finale be the only one without Stan Lee cameo. On the other side using a double would be rather insensitive in the eyes of some people.
 

Morrus

Administrator
Staff member
That makes me wonder if they also have one in Endgame. Otherwise I am not sure how to put Lee into the movie. It would be weird to have the big finale be the only one without Stan Lee cameo. On the other side using a double would be rather insensitive in the eyes of some people.
They filmed a bunch in advance. He didn’t travel to every movie set, but spent a day or two filming a whole load of cameos.
 

Tonguez

Adventurer
No idea about RT, I usually don't check those sites, but I don't think you will get a fair rating about this movie anywhere any time soon as it will certainly be a hotly discussed topic on various feminist and anti-feminist media because of the cast (not only the main one but also the makeup of the secondary cast) with them claiming this movie to be a revelation for feminism (with the danger of sliding into the "everyone who does not like it is a misogynist" territory like what happened with Ghost Busters) while the other side will decry it a feminist propaganda and will universally hate it. The ratings that are about the movie itself will be drowned out for a while until this "discussion" dies down.

Imo, watch it if you like the other marvel superhero movies. If not, don't.

PS: I really liked what they did for Stan Lee in the beginning.
Does someone know if the cameo was shot before his death or if it was a double?
while I don't doubt that the debate will happen amongst certain internet circles it is kinda rubbish, since there was barely anything remotely feminist in the story - other than having a sassy female lead.

The story was nice, but not great with a bit of fun and fireworks, two unexpected moments, a couple of disappointing moments, a naf twist and a cat.

The cameo was nice - apparently STan Lee will be making appearances for a long time to come
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
other than having a sassy female lead.
There was a sassy female lead. There was no romance plot. When it came down to it, the female lead didn't need menfolk to help her save the day.

You'd be surprised how much that grates on men who are very used to being the center of attention.

I went yesterday with a friend of mine (it was his birthday), and a few others. I liked the movie. My friend thought it was okay. His wife, his daughter, and my wife thought it was outstanding.

Welcome to the effect of being represented by the main character. How great the movie is depends, not solely, but strongly, on how much you identify with the main characters. Go figure.
 

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