Spoilers Masters of the Universe

[Whisper-Kitten]

I gotta say, I now don’t have high hopes for the Street Fighter film. Unrelated, but similar vibes.

I‘m amazed that you had high hopes in the first place?

 

[jian]

I‘m amazed that you had high hopes in the first place?

We’re all capable of impressive levels of self-delusion.

 

[Whisper-Kitten]

We’re all capable of impressive levels of self-delusion.

Like trying to convince myself that Rocky V was good.

 

[Benjamin Olson]

Casting was great, music was great - but good grief why is Hollywood purposefully producing rubbish scripts.

Well I think probably the basic problem is that big movies these days are too big of affairs to have good scripts. They launch into production with half-baked scripts because they need to hit windows when the principals are available, the movie will slot into the intended release schedule, a strike is not happening, or whatever.

Or else the scripts aren't quite right yet because few people actually understand the alchemy of what will actually work well at the other end of such a huge version of the filmaking process, and those that do probably would rather just get started with an "almost there" script than have a bunch of other clueless meddlers mangle it by committee for another couple years. It may well be that no script survives contact with a multi-hundred million dollar production, so why worry about it anyway?

And then once the vast machinery of actual film production is running there are too many people costing too much money to be on call to do their jobs in careful concert to have much leeway to deal with elements that aren't working.

Frankly the blockbuster movie model seems fundamentally broken. This movie is not on target to be profitable and a lot of would be blockbusters better than it also fail financially under the weight of the bloated budgets, but I feel like they are also often burdened in quality by their bloated budgets making them too big to be manageable. Sometimes you get lucky, and if the director or someone else prominent in the process has both a strong vision and clout that certainly ups the odds, but basically its a model of film production that usually misses.

 

[AnotherGuy]

Because the dialogue in the cartoon was so good?

I had accepted a camp movie but this was worse. It felt like it was written by 20 year olds or at best the two that gave us the epic that is season 8 Game of Thrones especially with Brandon's iconic line Why do you think I came all this way.

 

[Bayushi_seikuro]

Frankly the blockbuster movie model seems fundamentally broken. This movie is not on target to be profitable and a lot of would be blockbusters better than it also fail financially under the weight of the bloated budgets, but I feel like they are also often burdened in quality by their bloated budgets making them too big to be manageable. Sometimes you get lucky, and if the director or someone else prominent in the process has both a strong vision and clout that certainly ups the odds, but basically its a model of film production that usually misses.

I feel this is a key right here. Obviously, cinema is a business and has always been focused on maximizing its ROI. That's one reason we get Sharknado made - someone went "Jaws made money. Twister made money. Jaws + Twister will make money."

I feel there are certain properties that require big budgets - obviously epics like Lord of the Rings or the Marvel movies - but I think big budgets also can get in the way of making a superior movie. I know that Blair Witch is an outlier that capitalized on new social media and using media to its advantage, but it made an insane amount of money on a low budget. I think when directors and producers get bigger budgets, I think they think grander, whether they need to or not. I'm reminded of the infamous Uwe Boll quote where he talked about these movie budgets and said I can make five movies on that budget. (Personally, I don't think the budget is his issue as much as his vision for things)

An example of a movie I'd like to see that I don't feel would need Marvel-esque budgets would be a live action version of GI Joe Resolute.

 

[Morrus]

I had accepted a camp movie but this was worse. It felt like it was written by 20 year olds

And whats wrong with 20 year olds?

 

[AnotherGuy]

And whats wrong with 20 year olds?

You know very well what I mean...
Thank you for the replies.

 

[Morrus]

You know very well what I mean...

I do not. I’m struggling to understand what it is you’re trying to say.

 

[R_J_K75]

This song is closer in time to the original MotU time wise than the new movie. 30 years ago, makes me feel old...